Creating Own Regiment Names

[Skyline Pete]

Has anyone tried experimenting with this?

What I'm meaning is upon having the creation of a new unique unit, it is given it's own series of numbered names rather than taking the vanilla ones.

For example:
Recruit a unit of line infantry and you get 1st Regiment of Foot

or

Recruit a unit of new unit and you get 1st Regiment of New Unit

I've tried fiddling around with the following tables:
units_class
units_regiment_names
localisation.pack

Game keeps crashing on me whenever I try to start it.


Has anyone else ever had any luck?

[spikepillow]

yea man I'm in the same boat as you.

I'm using DBEditor to edit "units_tables\units" and "unit_regiment_names_tables\unit_regiment_names", and PFM to edit the localisation.loc file but my game keeps crashing during the loading screen into battle maps where my custom unit (a unit of Marines, in my case) is present.

Unfortunately, I am stumped too...

[ToonTotalWar]

Ok guys you will have to make a Mod for the unit and apply the db files to that unit using Pack File Manager. then you can make up your name for unit etc.. by doing this is the only way as using a CA default unit and changing the names will CTD!!
The other way of doing this is alter all the text entries for the unit in Main.pack, patch.pack, patch_en.pack. this is not recommended as when new patch updates will overwrite these alterations!
my advice go for option one

[spikepillow]

I think I already am making a separate mod for my custom unit. I cloned the rows i needed from the vanilla tables and changed the names. I have my own localisation.loc file in a .pack called "marines_mod_localisation.pack". I've tried changing the .pack file type to a movie, patch, mod, everything, and it doesn't seems to work. What seemed to be holding me up before was that I had created a custom class for my unit, as regiment names are drawn from the unit class, but I kept CTDing on loadup as i mentioned. What I did last night was use "infantry_berserker" class, which was already in-game, to get my custom regiment names. I made it past the loading screen with no CTD, but my regiment names were not there...

How exactly do you want me to go about making a mod for my unit? Because I thought I already had done that

What it might be is that my DB files are in a separate pack file than my localisation.loc file. But thats because PFM wont let me open db files anymore, it says its superceded by DBEditor. Likewise, I cant find the localisation.loc file in DBEditor, and so I was using PFM to edit that.

[spikepillow]

bumpity bump! anybody have a go at this?

[ToonTotalWar]

send me your file (mod & Loc file) for the unit and i will have a look at it for you.
Have you a text file within the mod? as well as your seperate LOC file?

[spikepillow]

ok i sent you the mod and loc file.

At the moment, I do have a .loc file in the same mod file with my unit. But before, I was keeping the .loc file in its own .pack file. It doesn't seem to make a difference either way; the regiment names wont show up if I use the infantry_berserker class and i get a CTD if i use a custom class.

[Johan217]

I think you also need to change something in the campaign's startpos.esf file.

It seems the game chooses the names on the basis of the entries in:
main\startpos.esf\CAMPAIGN_STARTPOS\CAMPAIGN_ENV\CAMPAIGN_MODEL\WORLD\FACTION_ARRAY\FACTION_ARRAY\FACTION\LAND_UNIT_NAME_ALLOCATOR

Haven't tried it myself, but it's worth a shot.

[spikepillow]

where exactly is that file? in the main .pack?

[Johan217]

.\Steam\SteamApps\common\empire total war\data\campaigns\main

You need ESF Editor to open the esf file: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=260597

[spikepillow]

ahhh yes, the ESF Editor... that makes sense

ok lemme have a go at at

[spikepillow]

when I try to open the UNIT_CLASS_NAMES_LIST, its all grayed out and nothing shows up on the right-hand side of the ESF Editor. I downloaded the editor from your link... might it need to be updated?

[The Vicar]

That's really interesting. Once upon a time I was stumped by this question. I had created a new unit class for a unit, filled out the class details, localized it properly, and the game refused to display the names. It always came up as the very first entry in the localization: Fixed Artillery.

But now, looking at the startpos, there's definitely a connection. 23 LAND_UNIT_MAP entries, which just happens to be the number of unit classes for land units as defined in the unit_class table in main.pack? Additionally, if you look at LAND_UNIT_MAP entry 0, you'll see that it's for the localization unit_regiment_names_localisation_lookup_unit_name_euro_artillery_units_fixed_001, which is the localization pointer for the first entry in the unit_class table, as defined in the unit_regiment_names table.

The question I have is: how are the unit classes tied to the LAND_UNIT_MAP entries? That is, how does it know that 0 means fixed_artillery? Is it only the order that the entries are in the unit_class table, or is there another table I'm missing somewhere (or another entry in the startpos) that ties them together?

[King of Carthage]

you know you can change the "1st regiment of foot" thing in game!? right, just open the unit card by right clicking on it and where it says that click the box delete the text and type what you want

[Irishguy11]

you know you can change the "1st regiment of foot" thing in game!? right, just open the unit card by right clicking on it and where it says that click the box delete the text and type what you want

Yes, but for EVERY unit in-game, that can get rather boring. I once played as Britain in Europa Universalis 3 and renamed all of my ships. By that time, I became bored and just quit the game!