Creating family tree

[duckeend]

Hi i have read the tutorial about how to make an family tree. As i wanted to create one. I want to create one for the Third age total war mod. That includes This

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tree Is this possible ? ( i only want the guys with an red square alive. Also is it possible to add an adopted son ? (so an tree with only 2 wife's on it)

(yes i know my english sucks and i hope I keep my self to all rules with this post)

[Gigantus]

That should be straight forward. Your family tree doesn't contain any wives, don't forget them.
Adopted sons are entered like any other child. To make them stick out, you can give them a different surname.

[duckeend]

Well i tried adding the people but when i try to start the campaign it goes back to the menu. i have only added

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character_record Nainii, male, age 120, death, 12, never_a_leader
character_record Daini, male, age 108, death, 10, never_a_leader
character_record Borin, male, age 105, death, 9, never_a_leader
character_record Gror, male, age 96, death, 8, never_a_leader
character_record nain, male, age 84, death, 7, never_a_leader
character_record Dis, female, age 65, death, 6, never_a_leader
character_record Eir, female, age 65, death, 5, never_a_leader
character_record Trud, female, age 65, death, 4, never_a_leader
character_record Goll, female, age 65, death, 3, never_a_leader
character_record Thora, female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader

relative Nainii, Dis, Daini, Borin, end
relative Daini, Goll, Gror, end
relative Gror, Eir, Nain, end
relative Nain, Trud, Dainii, end
relative Dainii, Thora, Thorin, end

I checked the descr_campaign_db and this one says max age is 120 and the diffrence between father and son is 12. so i went on from that. In the names i have also added all the Dainii etc. Can somoen tell me what i did wrong ? And howi maybe can solve it.

[Gigantus]

it is dead not death

Your women are way too young, adjust those figures and the dead issue and you should be fine.

relative Nainii 120, Dis 65 , Daini 108, Borin 105, end
relative Daini 108, Goll 65, Gror 96, end
relative Gror 96, Eir 65, Nain 84, end
relative Nain 84, Trud 65 , Dainii 108, end
relative Dainii 108 , Thora 48?, Thorin ?, end

[duckeend]

Thanks man I did what you said and I got my family tree

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I got it with this code character_record if anyone else also wants it to add.

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Naini, male, age 120, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Fenja, female, age 119, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Borin, male, age 102, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Daini, male, age 103, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Fulla, female, age 101, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Rind, female, age 100, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Farin, male, age 84, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Amma, female, age 83, dead, never_a_lead
character_record Gror, male, age 83, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Eir, female, age 82, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Fundin, male, age 67, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Groin, male, age 66, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Nain, male, age 64, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Goll, female, age 63, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Thora, female, age 43, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Dis, female, age 65, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Skuld, female, age 65, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Auda, female, age 47, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Dwalin, male, age 40, dead, never_a_leader

relative Naini, Fenja, Daini, Borin, end
relative Borin, Rind, Farin, end
relative Farin, Amma, Fundin, Groin, end
relative Daini, Fulla, Gror, end
relative Gror, Eir, Nain, end
relative Nain, Goll, Dain, end
relative Dain, Thora, Thorin, end
relative Groin, Dis, Gloin, end
relative Gloin, Auda, Gimli, end
relative Fundin, Skuld, Balin, Dwalin, end

Now there is an general called loni thats walking around and i want rename him to Oin and put him in the tree. But that doesnt work as the game won’t start any more. You maybe know why that is ?

I did

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;character Oin, named character, male, age 43, x 184, y 215 ;nan-i-naugrim x 183, y 215
;traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1

and then added Oin as an brother of Gloin. But the game did not start.

This last one is just because i like to have all generals in my family. I want to thank you very much. And i got to pay more attention at english class it seems. (typing death in stead of dead)

[Caesar Clivus]

I assume that you have taken the ; out at the start of Oin's character entry because otherwise the entire entry is commented out.

Also make sure that the elder brother is listed first in the relative line. Children must be listed from eldest to youngest or the game won't start.

[Gigantus]

Caesar is right:
First the semi-colon(s) have to go, then he has to be younger as the brother and last not least be last in line in the relative section.

[duckeend]

Thanks all it works i have also added halider and celeborn to thandruils tree. And i also added Theodred eowyn and eomer. To the rohan tree as age 1 kids. But now i wonder can i make an trait of biography that activates once they become mature ?

[Gigantus]

Please explain in more detail what you want to do and to what purpose (what result do you want to achieve).

[duckeend]

Oke I made several character in the rohan family tree

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character_record Morwen, female, age 41, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Gleowyn, female, age 20, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Dernwyn, female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Theodwyn, female, age 17, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Elfhild, Female, age 23, dead, never_a_leader
character_record Theodred, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Eomer, male, age 2, alive, never_a_leader

relative Thengel, Morwen, Theoden, Gleowyn, Dernwyn, Theodwyn, end
relative Theoden, Elfhild, Theodred, end
relative Eomund, Theodwyn, Eomer, end

Now i would like that Eomer and Theodred get an Trait once they turn 16. (and become a general) That trait will be an costum made one called biograpy. I think i can make one with http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=259316 . I would also like to ask is it possible to make theodred heir after thengel dies and Theoden becomes king ? I read something about giving him huge autority it should work. (that autority i would put in that trait). And do you think this is possible for me to do it as am rather new at scripting etc.

[konny]

Now i would like that Eomer and Theodred get an Trait once they turn 16. (and become a general) That trait will be an costum made one called biograpy.

FatherTrait and TurnNumber are your friends: give their father a unique trait (hidden) and make this trait for the father and the right number of turns the requirement to get the biography trait when coming of age.

I would also like to ask is it possible to make theodred heir after thengel dies and Theoden becomes king ? I read something about giving him huge autority it should work. (that autority i would put in that trait).

click on the link in my sig for the tutorial to set heirs by authority.

And do you think this is possible for me to do it as am rather new at scripting etc.

Backup your files and do it step by step. Test each single step on its own and only go on to the next one when the previous step is properly working.

[deguerra]

Sorry to slightly derail this but I am failing and cannot understand why.

The normal Gondor Family tree reads:

character_record Calaerwen, female, age 56, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lothien, female, age 15, alive, never_a_leader

relative Ecthelion, Calaerwen, Denethor, Mistion, Lothien, end

Just for the sake of simplicity, I want to make a very small change, namely make Lothien older and Denethor's wife. I enter this:

character_record Calaerwen, female, age 56, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lothien, female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader

relative Ecthelion, Calaerwen, Denethor, Mistion, end
relative Denethor, Lothien, end

The campaign fails to load and I get this error log:

18:10:32.265 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 609, column 21
Found a male name for a female record (Lothien)
18:10:32.265 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 609, column 31
Couldn`t find spouse end

Why on earth can the game all of a sudden no longer find Lothien as a female name???

Any ideas?

[konny]

Have you check in descr_names that Lothien is in fact listed as female?

[Silver Knight]

A qustion for Duckeend - Why have made it so Dwalin is dead? on the family tree that its the book it says he's still around till 3112, meaning that when the game starts he still has about 150 years still left in him, just curious