Unit Card

[Monthy]

Hi,

Are you planning to put in the unit card more information than in vanillia? For example, the number of arrows, spears, horses used type (light, heavy). It will be helped on the battle field.

And second thing.

After moving the mouse on the unit on the battle map in RTW showed the extensive information about its status, in MTWII it was very simplified. Do you will use version of MTWII or RTW?

[sumskilz]

Are you planning to put in the unit card more information than in vanillia? For example, the number of arrows, spears, horses used type (light, heavy). It will be helped on the battle field.

Maybe, it hasn't really been discussed. If so, it's a low priority right now.

After moving the mouse on the unit on the battle map in RTW showed the extensive information about its status, in MTWII it was very simplified. Do you will use version of MTWII or RTW?

Again, this hasn't been discussed. The RTW way van be implemented easily, but I personally think the level of detail you get is unrealistic. I don't like when the game is reduced to numbers, which is essentially what those levels are. Real life generals didn't have specifically quantified information regarding their soldier's condition. Though that's just my view, as I said, we really haven't discussed it.

[Achilla]

I was about to suggest one thing before but since this thread popped up, I will do it here.

I don't know how many 2d concept art people are working on this mod or willing to, but I thought it would fit this mod very well to have white-black pencil sketches (background should be parchment-like or burnt-page-like, not a clear white) as cards for buildings and units, instead of those polished, photoshopped (just look graphic enhancement submod for TATW ) screenshots, which don't really have anything to do with gritty atmosphere of medieval, perfectly portrayed in original MTW but forever gone in M2TW. I don't believe doing a sepia or white-black version of screenshots would do, since the eye for detail I'm talking about is something completely different.

Another case are faction portraits, which could be in similar fashion. I have no idea what you have planned for these?

PS. I don't expect any of you to pull it out for beta or even first non-beta release, but I would be most honoured if you thought well about my idea and rallied here and there fellow concept artists up to the task (I feel like an idiot now for not suggesting this earlier, not now when you work on the unit cards ), so it would get done faction-by-faction and included in future releases (I think getting buildings first, then siege engines, then general units and ships, then individual factions would be a good order).

EDIT:

I thought I would ask about campaign map as well, perhaps some more gritty/realistic textures as well? Or something that actually looks like a map, not RTS game map overview?

[RottenTree]

How much information will unit cards hold?
I really like to read the unit descriptions but for example in Broken Crescent they were pretty boring with the multi paged rambling (good mod btw)

[Achilla]

How much information will unit cards hold?
I really like to read the unit descriptions but for example in Broken Crescent they were pretty boring with the multi paged rambling (good mod btw)

I second this one. Too short concise description is bad, but too long one is even worse!

As for the unit cards, I realised that maybe you will be able to pull it off without concept artists and perhaps some effects here and there aren't a bad idea. For some inspiration check the spoiler.

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[Walkman810i]

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Dunno... but I can't feel any medieval spirit there, just ruins the picture

[Achilla]

Dunno... but I can't feel any medieval spirit there, just ruins the picture

Matter of taste Anyway, that's why I originally suggested concept art for unit cards instead of screenshots reworked in any way.

It would be good to see something original instead of those generic screenshots in vanilla fashion or heavily polished hollywood-like screenshots like in here - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=256326 (check unit info cards)

[Walkman810i]

Hm actually you got me really interested in this... got bored and came up with this

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[Copperknickers II]

It would be good to see something original instead of those generic screenshots in vanilla fashion or heavily polished hollywood-like screenshots like in here - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=256326 (check unit info cards)

We don't have any unit concept artists, though even if we did i personally would much prefer a screenshot.

[Ratbag]

Matter of taste Anyway, that's why I originally suggested concept art for unit cards instead of screenshots reworked in any way.

It would be good to see something original instead of those generic screenshots in vanilla fashion or heavily polished hollywood-like screenshots like in here - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=256326 (check unit info cards)

For concept art you should contact Elfhelm, he's fantastic artist.

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[Walkman810i]

Me and pencil are not good friends... sorry

[Achilla]

Me and pencil are not good friends... sorry

One can dream, eh? I just still remain amazed by the cards of MTW

[Copperknickers II]

I agree. We demand a pay rise, Hross! Plus you owe me a year's supply of mint imperials iirc