gun powder units
Hello every1.
Im having some difficulties with the gun powder units in the main campaign.
i would like to use them alot but i hardly got gud ones. for instance if been playing turks now till the year 1340 and i still dont have the monster bombard and there janny musketeers. while having all the maxed out buildings for them. i am using BB 2.0 btw any1 know whats the deal?
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It's a BB thing. I think it's coming soon.
Btw: how is the game in 1340? hard? do you have a stable kingdom? etc
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Originally Posted by Finn
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Uhm well its not that hard cause i play at normal. the only hard thing is that all the remaining factions are huge and built like a 1000 troops(if not more :S) every turn.
and my kingdom is very stable exept for a civil war thats going on atm
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uhm doesnt work btw i havent even gotten the second event yet aswell.
Last edited by Scheepsknecht; August 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM.
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I make that 320 turns... the final gunpowder units should have arrived before then. I honestly do not kinow why you haven't got them already.
What I would suggest is to do a little easy editing in export_descr_buildings.txt, you'll find it in dlv_ext\data.
Open it using notepad and use ctrl+f to find the entries for the units you want. When you find them they'll look like this:
recruit_pool "Janissary Musketeers" 0 0.5 4 0 requires factions { turks, } and event_counter malleus_maleficarum 1 and region_religion islam 60
and this:
recruit_pool "ME Monster Bombard" 0 0.1 1 0 requires factions { turks, } and event_counter malleus_maleficarum 1
All you need to do is delete 'and event_counter malleus_maleficarum 1' from both lines.
In fact you could probably get away with doing a 'find and replace' to remove every instance of 'and event_counter malleus_maleficarum 1' by replacing it with a space, or nothing. It might be a good idea to do this because if the event failed to fire then other factions will be unable to use the last stage of gunpowder units as well.
Hope that helps
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That sounds awsome!!! you should update a save game for sure!
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Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
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doing the Taiji thing, yes.
updating a save game for others to play, yes.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
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Judging from descr_events, the malleus_maleficarum event launches at date 306, which means the year 1486 (and so says wikipedia, too). So game-wise you shouldn't have musketeers yet, if you are still in the 14th century.
This event-dependent recruiting of bombards and musketeers is only in BB, or is it? I think new events should be made to announce their availability, like "Matchlock weapons come into use" in about 1440 and "Advanced cannons are developed" somehere after 1350s. What do you think?
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already at date 332 :S and now in the year 1344 i think.
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Did you do as I suggested with editing EDB?
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yes i edited it. on my saved game its compatable but nothing happened.
should i restore my game + files? if so how?
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If the player got a stable Kingdom by that time, then lowering the time the Gunpowder tech's comes might be a good idea. 20 -30 years or so.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
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You still don't have access to the units after removing that condition, did you try clicking end turn?
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yes several turns nothing happened. but i installed bb 2.2 now with other little fixes ill try it with that version. gonna take some time though
Last edited by Scheepsknecht; August 16, 2009 at 06:09 PM.
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Well ... I now have a suspicion that my timing for gunpowder might be off somehow. In theory it should be correct but since JJN's insightful comments have sunk in, I'm caused to wonder
edit:
Definately messed it up. I'd read a guide that implied the event date refered to turn number when that is simply not the case.
So gunpowder units are taking twice as long to arrive than they should.
Last edited by Taiji; August 17, 2009 at 09:49 AM.
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Ha haha, well that might cause a problem
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
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Damn that guide and bless Scheepsknecht, JJN and Gigantus (who helped me solve it). Thanks guys
Tiro
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I've only ever made it to the gunpowder age once. Usually long before then I either lose or get bored with the game I'm playing and start a new one.
DLV rules!
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I'm at 1315 right now and haven't seen any of gunpowder units except my own. AI don't recruit them and also there's no mercenaries units using gunpowder available.
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OK I have 'fixed' it. The dates I set before were wrong and now they match roughly what I had intended. See sig link for update.
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