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    AFP - A suicide car bomb exploded outside the NATO military headquarters in Kabul Saturday, killing seven Afghans in a brazen attack that raised alarm just days before landmark presidential elections.

    The Taliban militia behind a soaring insurgency said it had carried out the unprecedented bombing near the headquarters of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and close to an entrance to the US embassy.

    The huge explosion, just metres (yards) from the ISAF gate in one of the most secure areas of the country, reinforced fears of violence around the August 20 presidential and provincial council elections.

    President Hamid Karzai, in a statement condemning the blast, said the attack was intended to create fear ahead of the election but insisted that Afghans "will not be scared of such threats and will go to the voting booths".


    It was the first such bombing at the base, which groups soldiers from several countries and is the headquarters of the US commander of 100,000 international troops deployed to Afghanistan to fight extremism.

    "In the suicide attack today at 8:30 am by the enemies of Afghanistan in front of ISAF HQ entrance in Kabul the number of martyrs has increased to seven," an Afghan defence ministry statement said.

    The ministry said earlier that 91 Afghans were wounded including a woman parliamentarian and four Afghan soldiers.

    Five ISAF soldiers were wounded, though none seriously, a spokesman told AFP. He could not give their nationalities.

    General Stanley McChrystal, the US commander of international troops in Afghanistan, rushed to the scene soon afterwards, an AFP reporter said.

    "I have to see my men," he said, but refused to comment further.

    The blast destroyed concrete barriers and brought down branches and a whole tree, with huge plumes of black smoke coming from a burning vehicle that appeared to have been the car bomb.


    Also in the area, which was busy with morning rush hour traffic, are the Spanish and Italian embassies, state radio and television studios and the presidential palace.

    A Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, said the strike was carried out by a member of the militia in a car packed with 500 kilogrammes (1,100 pounds) of explosives.

    It was the first suicide attack on the city since February and the first one against the ISAF base established in the capital in 2002, the year after the Taliban regime was toppled in a US-led invasion.

    A suicide car bomb struck the perimeter of a separate US base in the city on January 17, killing at least one US soldier and four Afghans.

    The Taliban have said they would not directly attack polling stations on August 20 but have called on Afghans to boycott the polls and instead join their jihad, or holy war, for "independence".

    Karzai's younger brother, Ahmad Wali Karzai, said on Thursday community leaders in the troubled south had persuaded grassroots Taliban leaders not to target the vote.

    But there are fears that assaults or the threat of violence could see voters stay away from the elections, undermining what should be a milestone on a road to democracy.

    Britain and France condemned Saturday's bombing as analysts said it showed the insurgents were able to strike where they wanted to, even at the gate of the powerful military alliance.

    "Today's attack was a warning that the Taliban can attack any time," analyst Waheed Mujda told AFP.

    "Afghan security forces and NATO forces I think will be not able to stop such attacks on election day," he said.

    A spokesman for the United Nations Assistance Mission to Afghanistan, Adrian Edwards, said the strike highlighted that "these are among the most complex of elections anywhere".

    Karzai, the election frontrunner, meanwhile put off a campaign trip to the violent southern province of Helmand because of warnings of an attack, according to participants of the planned rally.

    His main rival, former foreign minister Abdullah Abdullah, took his tireless campaign to the eastern province of Nangarhar, receiving an enthusiastic welcome from around 10,000 supporters, an AFP photographer said.

    And Ashraf Ghani, another frontrunner, visited the southern city of Kandahar, telling around 4,000 locals that as president he would throw a security cordon around the troubled city and install a competent government.
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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Note to Taliban: The point of an attack is to blow up the bomb inside the headquarters. All you did is killed some poor pedestrians and burqa vendors.

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    They'd never make it inside, this is just a sign that they're still there and active.

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by A pimp named Slickback View Post
    Note to Taliban: The point of an attack is to blow up the bomb inside the headquarters. All you did is killed some poor pedestrians and burqa vendors.
    Don't expect too much, all afghan politicians are koran-bashing theocratic morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    Don't expect too much, all afghan politicians are koran-bashing theocratic morons.
    Not all are, and besides they merely reflect their people. Just as George Bush reflected his.

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    True, that's why we should never have sent troops...
    Both Bush and Afghans involved = Auto-Fail...
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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    i see the coalition actions in afghanistan helped alot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    i see the coalition actions in afghanistan helped alot...
    You can never defend fully from a single determined lunatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    You can never defend fully from a single determined lunatic.
    that's true,but those lunatics keep coming on a steady rate unfortunately...


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    coalition or isaf,as my people says

    "same ,different box"

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    i see the coalition actions in afghanistan helped alot...
    Firstly, get your facts straight before posting. The Coalition is in Iraq, while ISAF is in Afghanistan. Second, read above post.

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Then your people* are having a very hard time telling the difference between an American mission and an International (UN-supported) mission. Apart from fighting against religious fanatics and simple criminals they have little to none in common.

    *Oh no, I'm not gonna believe that every single Serb is that ignorant...

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Apart from fighting against religious fanatics and simple criminals they have little to none in common.
    and it turns out that 90% of the things they do is fighting "religious fanatics and simple criminals",so yeah,they have a lot in common.

    they have in common that they didn't clean the mess there was,and even started some new conflicts.

    and plz don't start with the "it's to promote democracy,freedom and fair trade"



    oh,and you SHOULD believe that every serb is less ignorant than you

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    I feel sorry for the anti-Taliban Afghans. It must be painful to realize none of your dreams of a modern, liberal country will return, that the country your parents lived in won't ever return.

    EVEN if the US wasn't hellbent on installing yet another pro-business dictatorship, ISAF would still be powerless to change Afghanistan. If anyone had interest in creating a genuine social democracy vis a vis France/Denmark-like, it would be achieved without a single casualty. But when you have multiple shallow missions overlapping each other; securing oil pipelines, creating buffer zones, finding OBL, creating paper government, none of it will be successfully accomplished.

    Good luck, Afghans.


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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajir View Post
    I feel sorry for the anti-Taliban Afghans. It must be painful to realize none of your dreams of a modern, liberal country will return, that the country your parents lived in won't ever return.
    Afghanistan was never modern or liberal, especially not after the USSR invasion of the nation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajir View Post
    EVEN if the US wasn't hellbent on installing yet another pro-business dictatorship, ISAF would still be powerless to change Afghanistan. If anyone had interest in creating a genuine social democracy vis a vis France/Denmark-like, it would be achieved without a single casualty. But when you have multiple shallow missions overlapping each other; securing oil pipelines, creating buffer zones, finding OBL, creating paper government, none of it will be successfully accomplished.

    Good luck, Afghans.
    You can't simply make a Danish style or French style democracy and society in Afghanistan since we have a vastly different culture and history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post


    You can't simply make a Danish style or French style democracy and society in Afghanist since there we have a vastly different culture and history.
    Agree, they should find their own democracy way for the best of the Afghan people.

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    Let them find their own anything. Doesn't have to be a democracy, as long as it's stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible View Post
    Let them find their own anything. Doesn't have to be a democracy, as long as it's stable.
    that aint gonna fly so well with the folks back home

    they expect the impossible
    an liberla western style democracy in afghanistan

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    Default Re: Deadly blast at Kabul NATO base, Taliban claims responsibility

    It's inevitable that Taliban and Hezbi-Islami members would try to disrupt the elections. Unfortunately, it's the innocent people that would be caught in the bomb blasts and attacks. The thing is that Karzai is very weak at this moment and Taliban know it. He is definitely going to win because Asraf Ghani even though he is World Bank economist and without the bloody past, he non-entity and has no power-base whatsoever.
    Dr Abdullah Abdullah is the strongest opposition to Karzai and has a chance because he is Kandahari Pashtun who spend time with Massoud more than any body else. He has a good chance but the problem is Pashtuns would not vote for him because they see him a as another Panjshiri Tajik in power.

    So, the problem is that US and Europeans are stack with Karzai even though they hate it. He accomplished pretty much nothing (Except for Kabul) and with the passing of this new Anti-Women law he totally disgraced himself and it is ironic that after 8 years since the fall of the Taliban the draconian Taliban-like laws are being implemented and US and Europeans can't do nothing about it.

    The possible solution would be to have the executive office of someone who would be like the prime minister and he would be the possible alternative to Karzai later and would make sure that some things are being done and accomplished. The question is again, who would that person be??
    First two candidates are not strong enough, and maybe and am saying maybe if there is a second round of elections between Karzai and Dr Abdullah then that position could go to Dr Abdullah and that way things should start moving towards some progress.
    Because things are now kind of in a stalemate. Without any exaggeration we can say that situation is getting worse and worse. The Taliban/Hezbi-Islami insurgency is getting stronger and more vibrant in south and south-east. North is peaceful now but pace of reconstruction is painfully slow and frustrating. The western part is quiet for now, but autocratic and medieval rule of Ishmael Khan is starting to create many problems. The first one that his power makes Karzai looks impotent and central government to be very weak. Central part of the country which is Hazarajat is being "ignored" by the Kabul and if it wasn't for the NGO's that region would be starving now.

    The only "big" improvement is Kabul and nothing else. The city is booming, new real-estate projects are visible everywhere and the economy of the city is expanding every year. Since the November 2001, the city has changed so much that it is hard to believe, and because of the influx of people, money, foreigners, drug money, etc, the city will only grow.
    But the problem is that Karzai and the government are only seen to be the lords of the capitol and nothing else, plus if the ISAF/NATO forces are increased which is inevitable it would only re-energize the insurgency. Remember that this is not Iraq, this is Afghanistan which is always easy to march into and to settle in. But to stay there as a armed power it's impossible and eventually you would have to leave or you are destroyed.
    So, let's what "new" elections would bring and what kind of new developments would be there, it's only 3 days away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    that aint gonna fly so well with the folks back home

    they expect the impossible
    an liberla western style democracy in afghanistan
    That's because they keep feeding people BS about afghanistan, giving everybody the impression that democracy is on the way, "oh, they're having elections, well done!".

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    In other breaking news Bears have been spotted ing in the woods.

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