Alliances

[caralampio]

I wonder what is it with the diplomacy, some factions do great and others...

As High Elves and Eriador, most neighbors would accept alliances, even evil ones. As high elves, the AI factions would even be the ones asking for it. I dropped alliance with the dwarves because they went to war with my other ally Eriador, as soon as the war stopped I had a dwarf knocking at my door asking for a renewal of the alliance! Also, I found it relatively easy to get ceasefires while playing as these factions.

However, as Silvan Elves, nobody wanted to ally with me. I finally got a grudging consent from the High Elves but as long as I didn't ask for a map.

Then as Orcs of Misty Mountains, nobody, absolutely nobody even the evil guys, wants to be my ally. Their answers always begin with "We do not think it is a good idea..." where you can almost be sure of failure no matter what you offer. I find it very hard to get ceasefires. Most neutrals are amenable to trade, however, and even happily exchange maps.

Are some factions more hated than others? What can be the problem?

[Maca]

I have had this too, except that I couldn't get anything as Eriador.
As OotMM was your reputation untrustworthy or less? I know that it's very hard to get alliances when it is.

[Archaon]

Orcs ally HUH! well take away the obvious super Sauron and Saruman... The mod is made so it is hard to ally factions who it is un-lore to have allies..

Silvan stay in their tree's. It is they who dont ally well, not the other factions..

[Warmaster Tibs]

If you realy want alliances or ceasefires you can use the money cheat. But be prepared because they will most likely backstab you if you get a ceasefire soon after, or go on mad rampages because they have so much money.

[Bloody_Ambition]

Silvan stay in their tree's. It is they who dont ally well, not the other factions..

Not rly, it was the silvans who headed to helms deep and helped rohan. That wasnt the high elves.

[Warmaster Tibs]

Not rly, it was the silvans who headed to helms deep and helped rohan. That wasnt the high elves.

That actual did not happen in the books. That was just added to the movies for elf action.

[Arthur Artorius]

Not rly, it was the silvans who headed to helms deep and helped rohan. That wasnt the high elves.

In the movie I remember them coming on behalf of Elrond, so they're High Elves. Not that it matters, it never happened in the books. They butchered the whole flow of events surrounding Rohan and Helm's Deep in the movie to make it easier to follow I guess. And so you could have a warm fuzzy "elves and men helping each other out" moment, and yeah, so you could see elves shoot a bunch of uruks.

[Inarus]

Realistically the Elves (particularily those of Lorien) should hate the Dwarves as much as the Orcs for it was the Dwarves that awoke the Balrog. This rarely gets between the two factions so obviously the creators don't care/pay-much-attention-to Lore.

I remember once I was playing as Eriador and allied with Isengard to eliminate the OotMMs first. REALISTICALLY Isengard should have told me to off!

[Bloody_Ambition]

In the movie I remember them coming on behalf of Elrond, so they're High Elves. Not that it matters, it never happened in the books. They butchered the whole flow of events surrounding Rohan and Helm's Deep in the movie to make it easier to follow I guess. And so you could have a warm fuzzy "elves and men helping each other out" moment, and yeah, so you could see elves shoot a bunch of uruks.

They became on behalf of the elf-human alliance AND because Elrond had asked, but Haldir himself along with his army were Silvans. But yeah if it wasn't in books then I guess it doesn't exactly apply, though I think this mod is based on a mix of the two really. Eg. No sauron unit for mordor, even though in books Sauron was in Barad and just in a weaker form.

[Warmaster Tibs]

=Eg. No sauron unit for mordor, even though in books Sauron was in Barad and just in a weaker form.

To weak to put himself in such a risk that leading his armys would put him in.

[Bloody_Ambition]

true...

[Warmaster Tibs]

true...

yes...indeed...