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    Default Repubs not only ones "fearmongering"...

    Remember when Obama wanted to speed through healthcare as fast as possible before the August recess??





    Here's how cap and trade went down...
    • The original cap and trade bill, HR 2454, was introduced to congress May 15th
    • June 23rd, the thousand-page bill was replaced by a whole new bill - HR 2998 - weighing in at 1200 pages
    • At 3:09 am on June 26th, a 300 page amendment was filed
    • 16 hours later, the house voted and passed the bill none of them had read
    Shown below is the 300 page amendment clicking on it could cause your computer to explode.
    http://www.rules.house.gov/111/Speci...hr2998_111.pdf


    Because quick, quick, quick, the enviroment could break.


    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...6414638.column

    "Rule 1: Never allow a crisis to go to waste," White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told the New York Times right after the election. "They are opportunities to do big things." Over the weekend, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told members of the European Parliament, "Never waste a good crisis." Then President Obama explained in his Saturday radio and Internet address that there is "great opportunity in the midst of" the "great crisis" befalling America.
    Not to mention the trillion dollar stimulus bill which if not passed would case the economy to break. The one that was garunteed to keep the unemployment rate under eight percent.

    But apparently he thinks it's no big deal to ignore immigration reform.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,1370688.story

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    Default Re: Repubs not only ones "fearmongering"...

    Its not hard to scare Americans, remember the 1954 alien invasion hoax?


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    Noone has ever implied that fearmongering was strictly a Republican phenomenon.

    The consensus is that what the Republicans have been doing has crossed the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajir View Post
    Its not hard to scare Americans, remember the 1954 alien invasion hoax?
    Oktober, 1938

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...ftheworlds.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds
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    And the demmies havent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanTheTerrible View Post
    And the demmies havent?
    If you can show a comparable example...please do.

    An example where members of their own party, foreign governments, foreign special interest advocates, the media and a consensus of the population all considered them as going overboard...by all means please share.

    Preferrably something within the last two years. Five at the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morteduzionism View Post
    If you can show a comparable example...please do.

    An example where members of their own party, foreign governments, foreign special interest advocates, the media and a consensus of the population all considered them as going overboard...by all means please share.

    Preferrably something within the last two years. Five at the most.
    god, let me pull out the last 10 years of the daily show and colbert report for some examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    god, let me pull out the last 10 years of the daily show and colbert report for some examples

    Yeah, please do. Good luck though. The Daily Show does an excellent job of proving that the Republican party relies on fearmongering and the manipulation of the ignorant. While it's true that Jon Stewart is clearly not as objective as he'd like to seem, his assessment of the ridiculousness of the "mouth" of current Republican ideology, Fox News, is entirely valid and highlights the fact that the Republican party is failing.


    Also, morteduzionism is right in saying that the Democrats, while at times using somewhat similar tactics, are in no way guilty of the organized and systematic attacks used by the Republicans, most of which are based on nothing but ignorance, lies, and fear. The accusations of fascism, with regards to the Patriot Act, are far more accurate then the claims from the right that Obama's "socialist" designs will destroy America. The Patriot Act did more to undermine fundamental principles of freedom than anything Obama has done, or likely will do,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrada992 View Post
    The Patriot Act did more to undermine fundamental principles of freedom than anything Obama has done, or likely will do,
    Obama voted for the Patriot Act.......

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    Great, now we are comparing propaganda toward HEALTH CARE versus propaganda toward WAR! One side wants to save people while the other wants to kill people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Great, now we are comparing propaganda toward HEALTH CARE versus propaganda toward WAR! One side wants to save people while the other wants to kill people.
    Bzzt actually both sides can claim their ideas are based on saving people in the end both are pure bs because it tends to be about money, control etc and if you think health care reform is anything other then that, wanna buy a bridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Bzzt actually both sides can claim their ideas are based on saving people in the end both are pure bs because it tends to be about money, control etc and if you think health care reform is anything other then that, wanna buy a bridge?
    Yeah but in reality how many people will health care reform kill?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Yeah but in reality how many people will health care reform kill?
    Rush Limbaugh.

    Cuz Obama will try to take his Oxycontin away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Yeah but in reality how many people will health care reform kill?
    Depends really just how bad the reform is My point was everyone uses fear to ram their agenda thru.

    Rush Limbaugh.

    Cuz Obama will try to take his Oxycontin away.
    I think its Probably safe to say Limbaugh has more then enough $ to pay for his own medical treatment.

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    Yes because this is on par with, foreign country has WMD's lets invade.

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    This doesn't actually bode well for American politics. It seems scaremongering, and the politics of fear, are the hall marks of Congress and American political debate. Every time. 9/11, Patriot Act, Environmentalism, Minority rights, iraq war, Healthcare...

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    Default Re: Repubs not only ones "fearmongering"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    This doesn't actually bode well for American politics. It seems scaremongering, and the politics of fear, are the hall marks of Congress and American political debate. Every time. 9/11, Patriot Act, Environmentalism, Minority rights, iraq war, Healthcare...

    ...
    And the deeper you delve into your above examples the more connected with one another and Big Business they become.
    Fascist Italy under Mussolini knew what Corporatism lead to.. If a law threatens a Corporations revenue the Propaganda Machine, Lawyers and Right Wing Allies move into overdrive to destroy this piece of legislation.



    It's interesting to witness what groups move onto the defence/offence.
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    Leading to labelling like Socialist, Communist, Terrorist, Neo Con w/e

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    Not just in America, political parties in Britain have been doing it for years, in fact go right back to the cold war

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    What is ridiculous is that Republicans don't realise that the National Socialists were as Socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Democratic. Well, some probably do, but they pretend they don't and use it to mislead the American public. Either way they're ignorant or lying.

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