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  1. August 14, 2009, 09:56 AM #1
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    Default How Many Non-US Citizens Like/Dislike/Feel Oppressed By Socialized Healthcare

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  2. August 14, 2009, 09:59 AM #2
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    Default Re: How Many Non-US Citizens Like/Dislike/Feel Oppressed By Socialized Healthcare

    Needs a poll.

    Anyway, you won't find many people against communist health rationing outside the U.S, or it would've been a bigger issue before America's attempts at reform right now.

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  3. August 14, 2009, 10:00 AM #3
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    ''feel oppressed by'' lol
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

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    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
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  4. August 14, 2009, 10:01 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    ''feel oppressed by'' lol
    the NHS doesn't seem very oppressive
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  5. August 14, 2009, 10:05 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinggis Khan View Post
    the NHS doesn't seem very oppressive
    Then the propaganda is working.

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  6. August 14, 2009, 10:06 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcrusty86 View Post
    Then the propaganda is working.
    what? you mean the propaganda being fed to you there in America?

    I don't recall my local GP wanting to kill me lol

    Britain is not socialist at all, hell the monarchy is still intact here.
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  7. August 14, 2009, 10:11 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinggis Khan View Post
    what? you mean the propaganda being fed to you there in America?

    I don't recall my local GP wanting to kill me lol

    Britain is not socialist at all, hell the monarchy is still intact here.
    I guess my sarcasm failed there.

    It's not like I was serious.

    I live in Australia btw.

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  8. August 14, 2009, 10:02 AM #8
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    better than getting ill and not havin the money to pay..
    in this country if you get ill, you will get treated, no 'can you pay for this?', you just get treated.

    Obv i feel very oppressed by this...
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  9. August 14, 2009, 10:05 AM #9
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    There was two briliant things in Soviet union - public system of healthcare abd education system.

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  10. August 14, 2009, 10:06 AM #10
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    the NHS doesn't seem very oppressive


    В советской России, здравоохранение угнетает Вас!
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
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  11. August 14, 2009, 01:52 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post


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  12. August 14, 2009, 10:06 AM #12
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    Feeling "oppressed" is not an option. We should feel "lucky" that our popoulations have survived under such barbaric conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTZ View Post
    Feeling "oppressed" is not an option. We should feel "lucky" that our popoulations have survived under such barbaric conditions.
    well in Britain it was a necessity after what happend to it during the Second World War.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcrusty86 View Post
    I guess my sarcasm failed there.

    It's not like I was serious.

    I live in Australia btw.

    my apologies
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    Love it, but it ain't perfect. I myself have robust health and haven't been in Hospital for medical reasons since I was born. My mother and sisters however have had to use the NHS, one for for an operation on her stomach and the other on a very rare tumour on her lungs. Both were dealt with very quickly (especailly the tumour that was scary) and with a high level of care.

    However, my mum broke her leg and the amount of times she was sat waiting for hours for the specialist was occasionally fustrating.

    So in my family's experiance very good with serious things but not always great with mundane things.
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    My country recently privatized all health care, so no more socialized care for me.

    I feel oppressed by the private health insurance companies, I wish I still had a socialized insurance option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    My country recently privatized all health care, so no more socialized care for me.

    I feel oppressed by the private health insurance companies, I wish I still had a socialized insurance option.
    that's ironic then isn't it?

    that you feel more oppressed under a private healthcare system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    My country recently privatized all health care, so no more socialized care for me.

    I feel oppressed by the private health insurance companies, I wish I still had a socialized insurance option.
    Welcome to th wonders of privatized medicine. Does the lack of all that socialism make you feel light as a feather?
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    Oh definitely I feel oppressed!!

    One time I got hit by a car which broke my leg and they wouldn't leave me alone. Kept on bothering me about treatment and looking after my health. They wouldn't even let me pay the bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6th Vigil View Post
    Oh definitely I feel oppressed!!

    One time I got hit by a car which broke my leg and they wouldn't leave me alone. Kept on bothering me about treatment and looking after my health. They wouldn't even let me pay the bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LOL

    I had to rep you for that

    I had to have surgery more than ten years ago and my parents didn't have to pay anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6th Vigil View Post
    Oh definitely I feel oppressed!!

    One time I got hit by a car which broke my leg and they wouldn't leave me alone. Kept on bothering me about treatment and looking after my health. They wouldn't even let me pay the bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Yeah, being able to go to the doctor when ever I feel sick without any worries about how much it would cost is pure oppression
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