why the game starts 50 years earlier than the war?

**vipraymond** · August 14, 2009, 01:15 AM

why the game starts 50 years earlier than the war ?

**Romaneck** · August 14, 2009, 01:25 AM

Otherwise Isengard would not make much sense would it now?

Sauron:Hey yo Saruman where did you got all those troops?

Saruman: A wizard did it... this time literally

**Archaon** · August 14, 2009, 01:26 AM

Because this is Third Age TW not LotR Total War or War of the Ring TW...

**axnsan** · August 14, 2009, 01:27 AM

You should be grateful it doesn't begin at the start of the third age.

**Terafis** · August 14, 2009, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

You should be grateful it doesn't begin at the start of the third age.

Why?

**Outlawstar15a2** · August 14, 2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Terafis

Why?

Because that would mean a good 3,019 years (4 turns each year) before the War of the Ring and the really juices events... You wouldn't even recognize the military and political landscape. On a side note, I don't even know if you can have a campaign with (3,019 x 4 turns).

**Archaon** · August 14, 2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Outlawstar15a2

Because that would mean a good 3,019 years (4 turns each year) before the War of the Ring and the really juices events... You wouldn't even recognize the military and political landscape. On a side note, I don't even know if you can have a campaign with (3,019 x 4 turns).

Eras..

**axnsan** · August 14, 2009, 01:30 AM

Because that would mean a weak mordor, no nazgul, no isengard, no rohan etc

**Beregond** · August 14, 2009, 02:04 AM

..and EPICLY strong Gondor

but seriously it's because of the number of turns,to have more turns and also

Originally Posted by Varjon

because if we wanted to focus on War of the Ring this modification would be called War of the Ring: Total War instead of Third Age: Total War. Ealier starting date also gives more freedom for player because 60 years is a lot longer time than 2 or 3 years.

**axnsan** · August 14, 2009, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Beregond

..and EPICLY strong Gondor

I knew that, I was just testing you

**Archaon** · August 14, 2009, 02:07 AM

that would make a really good mod..

Gondor in control of Umbar, maybe have the Corsairs an emergent faction.
Rhov faction that are in a weakened state, forcing them to be defeated thus Rohan an emergent faction once Rhov are defeated.

Stronger Kingdoms in the west, I.e. Enedwaith.

We'd have the siege at Dol Guldur, The Witch King in Angmar and the struggle with remnant Arnor Kingdoms..

There is already a Second Age mod - but an early Third Age mod could be really fun!

**Black_ice_Spain** · August 14, 2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Archaon

that would make a really good mod..

Gondor in control of Umbar, maybe have the Corsairs an emergent faction.
Rhov faction that are in a weakened state, forcing them to be defeated thus Rohan an emergent faction once Rhov are defeated.

Stronger Kingdoms in the west, I.e. Enedwaith.

We'd have the siege at Dol Guldur, The Witch King in Angmar and the struggle with remnant Arnor Kingdoms..

There is already a Second Age mod - but an early Third Age mod could be really fun!

second age, where?

**Muffer Nl** · August 14, 2009, 02:23 AM

..and EPICLY strong Gondor

You know that Arnor was stronger then Gondor in it's glory?

**Beregond** · August 14, 2009, 02:31 AM

not sure

**OfficerJohn** · August 14, 2009, 02:36 AM

Why did they start fighting more than thousand years before the war?

Okay, then, but why did the war start about twenty-forty years before the war? (Skirmishes, small battles and such. Fighting in Ithilien, etc...)

**Archaon** · August 14, 2009, 02:40 AM

Arnor was the dominant power - While Gondor was the second establishment.
It was the split of Arnor into the 3 successor kingdoms (plus Gondor) that allowed the Witch King to further weaken the North to the point you know of in the mod. Gondor remained steadily with the same power (exceptions are Umbar region) but that soon changes also with the rise of power in Mordor.. essentially all of the Númenóreans were destined for destruction in ME..