Chinese report sparks India anger

[Babur]

I know that this doesn't represent the view of all Chinese people or the government but still it is pretty annoying that such a report was produced in the first place

Chinese report sparks India anger


India says relations with China remain warm

The Indian foreign ministry has dismissed a suggestion by a Chinese think tank that the country should be broken up into 30 independent states.

It said that the proposal was the view of an individual and did not accord with the official position of China.
The report was written by the China International Institute of Strategic Studies in July.
It argues that a fragmented India would be in China's interests and would also lead to prosperity in the region.
The article was available online until recently but it has now been removed. Even so, it has received extensive coverage in the Indian press.

'Broken up'

The Times of India quoted it as saying that Beijing "should work towards the the break-up of India into 20-30 independent states with the help of friendly countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan.
Indian troops have a long-standing border dispute with China

The article was reportedly written under the pseudonym "Zhan Lue" (Strategy). It argued that if China "takes a little action, the so-called great Indian federation can be broken up".
The Times of India quotes the paper as arguing that China should join forces with "different nationalities" such as Tamil and Kashmiri people so that they can establish independent nation states of their own.
It also reportedly carried other similar proposals for other areas of the country and makes a reference to the disputed north-east Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which lies on the border with China.
The Indian foreign ministry said that the two countries have a "strategic and co-operative partnership... and the pace of exchanges has gained momentum in recent years".
"Both sides have agreed to continue this momentum, while seeking to resolve outstanding issues, including the boundary question through peaceful dialogue and consultations, and with mutual sensitivity to each other's concerns," the foreign ministry statement said.
"The Chinese side has conveyed to us that in approaching India-China relations, China abides by the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence. One of these principles stresses respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty.
"The article in question appears to be an expression of individual opinion and does not accord with the officially stated position of China on India-China relations conveyed to us on several occasions, including at the highest level... last week."
The publication of the article coincides with the 13th round of India-China border talks, which both sides have termed as positive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8197428.stm

[bushbush]

don't take it seriously

think tanks in china = unemployed nerds who write no one takes seriously.

[Babur]

don't take it seriously

think tanks in china = unemployed nerds who write no one takes seriously.

I am not taking it seriously man, these guys seems like IRL trolls LOL


I think that it is a necessity that China and India co-exist peacefully for the sake of the security of the region.

[jankren]

On the contrary I think Pakistan India and Bangladesh should re-merge.

[Babur]

On the contrary I think Pakistan India and Bangladesh should re-merge.

it won't happen though

Well, the same think tank also said China should annex Pakistan a couple of years earlier and everybody had a good laugh about that.

that's silly considering that China and Pakistan have been close allies for some time

On the contrary, China and India should merge. The combined wealth, industrial capacity and military strength would make the EU and the US very, very nervous. Plus, sweet-and-sour curry!

yuh it would be unstoppable but it won't happen I think

India should annex Pakistan.

we don't want a border with Afghanistan LOL

[karo]

I really hate all those think tanks, they keep having retarded ideas and it seems it's in almost every country in the world.

[bushbush]

I really hate all those think tanks, they keep having retarded ideas and it seems it's in almost every country in the world.

they gotta make money by spreading crazy ideas....

[Babur]

I really hate all those think tanks, they keep having retarded ideas and it seems it's in almost every country in the world.

but this is a new level of idiocy, what if I said that the world would be better if China was broken into 4 parts? LOL.

I would be as stupid to make such a claim.

they gotta make money by spreading crazy ideas....

yuh it's a real shame

[Nick_Since_1985]

China shoundn't open that can of worms, it certainly would backfire - China could be be broken up in more then 30 pieces as well...


Greetz

Nick

[karo]

but this is a new level of idiocy, what if I said that the world would be better if China was broken into 4 parts? LOL.

I would be as stupid to make such a claim.

Well some think tanks are sating that the US should invade Iran

they gotta make money by spreading crazy ideas....

Let them give that money to me and I'll give them much better ideas that are equally crazy

[Alkarin]

On the contrary I think Pakistan India and Bangladesh should re-merge.

on the contrary. i vote for a world unification.

We should pay attention to this part of the world. For another Indo-Sino war is exactly the excuse we will need, and the only one we would get, to downsize and contain China.

we should also pay attention since they kind of have the larger part of the human population. also any type of conflict between the two could easily become disastrous

[Digbert]

On the contrary I think Pakistan India and Bangladesh should re-merge.

That's called wishful thinking

[Mithie]

Well, the same think tank also said China should annex Pakistan a couple of years earlier and everybody had a good laugh about that.

[Amry]

On the contrary, China and India should merge. The combined wealth, industrial capacity and military strength would make the EU and the US very, very nervous. Plus, sweet-and-sour curry!

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

On the contrary, China and India should merge. The combined wealth, industrial capacity and military strength would make the EU and the US very, very nervous. Plus, sweet-and-sour curry!

Indo-China It would be a great idea.. if China was really Communist.

[Aetius]

On the contrary, China and India should merge. The combined wealth, industrial capacity and military strength would make the EU and the US very, very nervous. Plus, sweet-and-sour curry!

Yeah....waaaay too many people.

[Zadig]

Yeah....waaaay too many people.

Did you hear what he said????? Sweet and sour curry, how could you not want that!!!! it's worth all the chaos that would ensue!

[A pimp named Slickback]

India should annex Pakistan.

[removeduser_052420]

India should annex Pakistan.

lololololololol

Not in a million years . And i'm sorry, but by itself India will NEVER be able to beat China in war. And it's in both countries interests to work together anyway, unless India pussies out and attacks China.

[Barry Goldwater]

Yes, sorry, wrong Chinese statesman. Mao was good in his ambitions, albeit never materializing. India doesn't and somewhat always lacked an idealist type figure, someone thinking of overhaul.

Reality tends to bite our idealists in the ass.

Wilson? He was too nice to the Germans, look where that got us just over 20 years later.
Mao? An idealist? OK, I'll bite, since Communists are idealists. Three words - Great Leap Forward. And that's just scraping the tip of the crimson iceberg.
The hippies? Reduced to self-righteous, hypocritical college kids in most places. When I see one of them going off on how 'man is the only species to kill its own', I troll them with videos of ants ripping each other apart.

The people we need in charge are rational, pragmatic realists who have at least some knowledge of the situation and know what they're doing, not wide-eyed idealists with their heads stuck in the clouds.

India is making progress, its the culture that needs to change. I'm not referring to curry and bangla, I'm referring to caste systems, birth rights, titles, land ownership, dynastic cult, so forth. India needs socialism. The education system is only available for few, same with health benefits. That's the one area I appreciate socialism more than anything, with whatever meager allowances, socialism spreads the bread crumbs. India doesn't even allow for bread crumbs after the meals, the rich just gobble everything up and you know it. Capitalist failure at its best. Ghandi's vision was a failure - he gave Indians self-determination, but left it with no more choice and opportunity than the British allowed. India is in shackles, it'll take a visionary to break it, someone to finish Ghandi's legacy (who was a softy in the first place, he'd kick butt as a commie).

Uh...what?

Socialism spreads the bread crumbs alright. Under capitalism however, you can buy a whole loaf of bread. Of course there will be those who starve, but outside of extreme-right laissez-faire capitalism (which I do not approve), we still try to do something to help them. We can't help everyone though - that's the bitter reality.

If Gandhi was a violent Communist there wouldn't be an (independent) India until after the Cold War, not without an epic war against the Brits that will cost hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of lives and a will to fight that matches North Vietnam's.

Lastly...I believe there are chunks of India that are already socialist.

My Nepalese-Indian friend is watchin the Maoist movement in Khatmandu, he's been utilizing his prayer beads to make something like that happen in Delhi.

The Naxalites are terrorist scum with more than a couple hundred people's blood staining their hands.