Lifespan od the Dunedain

**lordyu** · August 13, 2009, 11:57 AM

Why was there lifespan so shortened?

http://www.zarkanya.net/Tolkien/Decl...umenoreans.htm

**A1_Unit** · August 13, 2009, 12:51 PM

If you're talking about in-game then it's very hard to get the lifespan changed without having to modify other things.

**Muffer Nl** · August 13, 2009, 01:14 PM

Life-span is set for all characters at the same level. So Dunedain could live longer but the orcs would then live longer too.

**OfficerJohn** · August 13, 2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by muffer

Life-span is set for all characters at the same level. So Dunedain could live longer but the orcs would then live longer too.

Orcs are immortal in the same way like Elves, except they can get sick...

**Beregond** · August 13, 2009, 01:19 PM

Don't Orcs already live for more than 90 years like all others? LOL

**Sithenidon** · August 13, 2009, 02:17 PM

Lorewise, the Dunedain are the heirs of Numenor. The Numenorians weren't native to Middle Earth but came from an Atlantis-like island called (unsurprisingly) Numenor. They weren't as long lived as the Elves but I guess they'd live for something like 3-400 years. There were, however, already humans native to Arda who lived about as long as we would. Over time, the Numenorians got genetically assimilated into these "lesser" human races. The Nobility seem to have been the slowest to accept new blood and it is generally there that you will find traces of Numenorian traits (Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth for instance).
The Dunedain is the human line that has remained the least "tainted" and its members remain exceptionally long lived, beautiful and possessed of great mental and physical srength (Aragorn, seemingly a man in his late twenties to mid thirties, is actually almost ninety)

**P|A|ntZ** · August 13, 2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sithenidon

Lorewise, the Dunedain are the heirs of Numenor. The Numenorians weren't native to Middle Earth but came from an Atlantis-like island called (unsurprisingly) Numenor. They weren't as long lived as the Elves but I guess they'd live for something like 3-400 years. There were, however, already humans native to Arda who lived about as long as we would. Over time, the Numenorians got genetically assimilated into these "lesser" human races. The Nobility seem to have been the slowest to accept new blood and it is generally there that you will find traces of Numenorian traits (Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth for instance).
The Dunedain is the human line that has remained the least "tainted" and its members remain exceptionally long lived, beautiful and possessed of great mental and physical srength (Aragorn, seemingly a man in his late twenties to mid thirties, is actually almost ninety)

Not sure you have it 100% straight - I believe the Númenorians are most definitely native to Middle Earth. The Númenorians were descendants of Haldad, whose came westward over Ered Lindon to escape the hardships of Middle Earth. Haldad's daughter led the Haladin westward and settled near the edge of Thingol's realm, and mixed with those Grey Elves. After the end of the First Age, the Valar created the island (later called Numenor) and gave it to men as a gift. They named the island after themselves, not the other way around.

Excerpt from the Silmarillion (I know it's boring and biblical, but I think it's pretty clear about the origins of Númenorians):

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And Haleth dwelt in Brethil until she died; and her people raised a green mound over her in the heights of the forest, Tûr Haretha, the Ladybarrow, Haudh-en-Arwen in the Sindarin tongue.

In this way it came to pass that the Edain dwelt in the lands of the Eldar, some here, some there, some
wandering, some settled in kindreds or small peoples; and the most part of them soon learned the Grey-elven tongue, both as a common speech among themselves and because many were eager to learn the lore of the Elves. But after a time the Elf-kings, seeing that it was not good for Elves and Men to dwell mingled together without order, and that Men needed lords of their own kind, set regions apart where Men could live their own lives, and appointed chieftains to hold these lands freely. They were the allies of the Eldar in war, but marched under their own leaders. Yet many of the Edain had delight in the friendship of the Elves, and dwelt among them for so long as they had leave; and the young men often took service for a time in the hosts of the kings.
Now Hador Lórindol, son of Hathol, son of Magor, son of Malach Aradan, entered the household of Fingolfin in his youth, and was loved by the King. Fingolfin therefore gave to him the lordship of Dor-lómin, and into that land he gathered most of the people of his kin, and became the mightiest of the chieftains of the Edain. In his house only the Elven-tongue was spoken; but their own speech was not forgotten, and from it came the common tongue of Númenor. But in Dorthonion the lordship of the people of Bëor and the country of Ladros was given to Boromir, son of Boron, who was the grandson of Bëor the Old.

The sons of Hador were Galdor and Gundor; and the sons of Galdor were Húrin and Huor; and the son of Húrin was Túrin the Bane of Glaurung; and the son of Huor was Tuor, father of Eärendil the Blessed. The son of Boromir was Bregor, whose sons were Bregolas and Barahir; and the sons of Bregolas were Baragund and Belegund. The daughter of Baragund was Morwen, the mother of Túrin, and the daughter of Belegund was Rían, the mother of Tuor. But the son of Barahir was Beren One-hand, who won the love of Lúthien Thingol's daughter, and returned from the Dead; from them came Elwing the wife of Eärendil, and all the Kings of Númenor after.

**A1_Unit** · August 13, 2009, 02:26 PM

I know but to make that in-game is very hard.

**lordyu** · August 13, 2009, 03:05 PM

I am talking about lore wise. Even when a Royal married a northman(women) the life span stilll remain above 200. But in the north where the royal were still pure there lifespan dwindled. I want to know why do you think it happened. What made the royals of gondor so different htan the north. The line of gondor could be viewed as usurpers.

**A1_Unit** · August 13, 2009, 03:06 PM

@lordyu
Maybe... or they just didn't like Numenorian women very much...

**A1_Unit** · August 13, 2009, 06:19 PM

And be shot, chopped, crushed, or eaten. It's great fun to be an Orc!

**OfficerJohn** · August 14, 2009, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by A1_Unit

And be shot, chopped, crushed, or eaten. It's great fun to be an Orc!

Those things can happen to Elves too.

**Ghostlord** · August 13, 2009, 07:49 PM

Arent all men desceded from the Edain?

**Muffer Nl** · August 14, 2009, 02:56 AM

Arent all men desceded from the Edain?

No only the Numenoreans that kept on worshipping Eru. Many of the Numenoreans worshipped Melkor before Nuemenor was destroyed and the survivors became the black numenoreans (You know that Gondor and Arnor were founded by a very, very small part of Nuemenor and that even they Pwnd Sauron?)