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    Default How evil is Sauron and friends?

    First of all I want to say that TATW is a kick ass game, and I am enjoying every bit of it and I love the new unit description card pictures, especially for the Rhunnic Clan Crossbowmen.

    Ok, to the topic at hand. How evil is Sauron and his horde. Everybody talks about my friend Saury how he only wanted to pawn a ring and kill everyone but to me he's actually a pretty nice guy. I mean he even provided jobs for the Orcs and got Gondor and Rohan to rekindle a old friendship now how evil can he really be if he's willing to do all that?

    I mean I ask because when measured against an evil in say Warhammer 40K where Chaos creates new daemons by dissecting still alive space marines, has Slaanesh who would assume to rape you with a diamond studded **** and then grind you into paste to get high on, and has a Imperium who would accuse you of heresy for something as minor as being born with unsightly traits and then turn you into a Arco Flagellant to repent. After considering all that and the haziness of the details on Sauron's career. I find this question most intriguing...

    Mind you the above examples from WH40K don't even come close to chipping the air above the iceberg let alone the chuck of ice itself.
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    provided jobs for the Orcs
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    He also gave several Hobbits the travel opportunity of a lifetime and took some bad real estate off Gondor's hands.

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    Sauron is an unsung saint and it's about time he gets his due!!! He's an acheived socialist who has brought jobs and welfare to many many poor deprived orcs! Hip hip horray!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody_Ambition View Post
    Sauron is an unsung saint and it's about time he gets his due!!! He's an acheived socialist who has brought jobs and welfare to many many poor deprived orcs! Hip hip horray!!!
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    You're the guy who keeps making threads that you think are funny right? Lol...

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    Ye and he only caused the destruction of Numenor with his bad influence...

    Destroying a whole nation is just a minor thing compared to dissecting a live space marine...sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by franek620 View Post
    Ye and he only caused the destruction of Numenor with his bad influence...

    Destroying a whole nation is just a minor thing compared to dissecting a live space marine...sure
    Numenor had it coming.

    Dont forget trillions (realistic number actual) of Guardsmen. Well usualy they arent disected per say but ripped limb from limb, tortured,eaten,corrupted, tainted, killed by their officers because theyre tainted, blown into little bits, blown into dust, blown into nothing, sacrificed, and shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franek620 View Post
    Ye and he only caused the destruction of Numenor with his bad influence...

    Destroying a whole nation is just a minor thing compared to dissecting a live space marine...sure
    He didn't destroy numenor! It was Eru! In fact Sauron almost died in that deed. All he did was showing the Numenoreans a way to become immortal, which is prety decent of him.
    He gave a living to thousands and thousands of orcs and other descriminated creatures and he also almost succeded in uniting middle earth, were it not for that warmongering wizard called gandalf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankai View Post
    and he also almost succeded in uniting middle earth, were it not for that warmongering wizard called gandalf.
    That evil Gandalf also caused a bunch of peaceful and happy hobbits to suffer a bunch of chaos and outside influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanny777 View Post
    That evil Gandalf also caused a bunch of peaceful and happy hobbits to suffer a bunch of chaos and outside influence.
    Gandalf was EVIL


    • He wore a white robe with a white hood...
    • He never answered a question , but twisted and turned his way out of doing so
    • He made unrealistic demands of Sauron when all Sauron wanted was to have a chat
    • He corrupted and led astray a naive innocent race called the Hobbits
    • He killed an innocent Balrog, when all it wanted was to have a sleep in a deep cave
    • He tricked some cave trolls into staying up and turning to stone in the daylight
    • He stole a horse from Rohan
    • He accepted stolen goods, the palantir first stolen from Saruman

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    Hope! Change! Shiny rings for everybody!!!
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    All hail Sauron, the new Karl Marx! (for orcs)
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    Lets not even say of the entire planets that recieve such a treatment

    Sauron had been listening to the ambassador of chaos for over a few hours now , he stood unmoving as the creature spoke in great detail of his people , as it finished it asked :

    "So my lord Sauron , as you can see a alliance with us would be most beneficial."

    "BENEFICIAL? Yes perhaps , but you are monsters beyond what I had ever dreamnt of doing , beyond what even Melkor himself would do ! no I will not ally you."

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    Oh Sauron hasnt eveer done anything bad to anyone. He and his two friends melkor and morgoth just took thousands of elves and tortured them and turned them into orcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dea Paladin View Post
    Oh Sauron hasnt eveer done anything bad to anyone. He and his two friends melkor and morgoth just took thousands of elves and tortured them and turned them into orcs.
    You are thinking in a much too negative way...
    he gave them the opportunity to leave such gay lifestyle....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterBigAb View Post
    You are thinking in a much too negative way...
    he gave them the opportunity to leave such gay lifestyle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterBigAb View Post
    You are thinking in a much too negative way...
    he gave them the opportunity to leave such gay lifestyle....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dea Paladin View Post
    Oh Sauron hasnt eveer done anything bad to anyone. He and his two friends melkor and morgoth just took thousands of elves and tortured them and turned them into orcs.

    Thats Elf propaganda! What actual happened was Morgoroth was actual a teenage girly girl and offered free makeovers for all the pretty elves. She then got knocked up by Sauron just before the makeover, got drunk and completly ed up the way the Elves looked. The Elves where then to ashamed to go back so they stayed with Morgoth. When Morgoth soberd up she went insane with greif and decided that she had to pee in everyone cherios. She was however beaten and Sauron took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dea Paladin View Post
    He and his two friends melkor and morgoth
    Melkor and Morgoth? TWO friends??
    Sir, you just raped the lore

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