People who doubt history.

[SonOfAlexander]

I know some people have a stoic view of history, like the BNP leader, that well known idiot Nick Griffin, who is well known for amongst other things not believing in the Holocaust. And that is the sort of thing this thread is about.

I want to know your thoughts on this. I said, some people have a stoic view of life and therefore history. My teacher once showed us a pic of a giraffe and asked us what it was. We all immediately replied and he said "But have you ever seen one?" And it's true, none of us had. People like Griffin apply that to history as well.

They say "Were you at Auschwitz? Then how do you know that Hitler/Himmler's 'The Final Solution' happened then? Actually that's not what he says - he can't form such a sensible argument. He simply says that it was all made up for fun. Like the Moon landings, some would say. I DO NOT agree.

(N.B. Why do people doubt the Moon landings? It's not as if any part of it sounds ludicrous or ridiculous or impossible. Don't quote things like 'The flag is up and there's no wind on the moon...' It's held there with wire.)

It's true that I have never been to Treblinka, say. But you can't walk into a history lesson in school, say, and start saying that you don't believe any of it. In a society you have to agree on things. You'll never be able to go anywhere if you can't accept it.

And here's the counterpart to Griffin's idotic political argument about 'The Americans made it up.'
The simple fact is: Why would they bother? It would cost millions of $s, and take years of CIA work to make people tell the same story and then they'd have to build a copy of Aushwitz, etc. In sort, it would have been extremely hard to do. And the important thing is - they didn't need to! Griffin would say they did it just to help make people think the Nazis were evil, but they didn't need to! People think the Nazis are evil enough before they start hearing about 6 million massacred Jews (though it sure as hell doesn't help their case!)

I've seen similar examples, say that thread here on Vestigia Vetustatis about Life in the USSR.
Comments

[Alkarin]

by his philosophy there was an alien race living with humans in harmony for the last trillion years except in the last 200 years they all left and took all their technology. you cant prove me wrong because you werent there! i would like him to say his belief to people who were in those concentration camps

and for the USSR thread..I know 2 people who lived in communist countries (1 in DDR and one in USSR) and they both enjoyed their lives and are socialists to this day.

[karo]

In history you have many points of views, look at a war every one thinks they are ding the good think it's the same in history every one has it's own view of how things happened. And history is always written by the winners.