How Hitler lost the war[Documentary]

[Alkarin]

I found this documentary the other day on youtube and i believe its very unbiased since most of the information is from the soldiers themselves on both sides. It explains why and how Hitler lost the war and when. what is your opinion on it? when do you think Hitler actually 'lost the war?
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sorry if this has been posted before. If not then goody!

[A pimp named Slickback]

Looks like a great documentary. Bookmarked it.

[jankren]

Genius Poles. Charging tanks with horses. Poland should belong to Germany just for that reason. Lolz

By the way, why didnt the Allies make war on Soviet Union too for the invasion of Poland?

[Enemy of the State]

Genius Poles. Charging tanks with horses. Poland should belong to Germany just for that reason. Lolz

That didn't happen.

[Alkarin]

That didn't happen.

i have a book written by a german commander that documented the entire war from his view that says otherwise?

if your curious to know its

Panzer Battles
by: General Von Mellenthin

[Enemy of the State]

i have a book written by a german commander that documented the entire war from his view that says otherwise?

http://www.polamjournal.com/Library/...alry_myth.html

It was a misunderstanding and German propaganda.

[My Favorite Martian]

http://www.polamjournal.com/Library/...alry_myth.html

It was a misunderstanding and German propaganda.

I like that article.

[Alkarin]

well the allies did not want a war in the first place, which is why they betrayed Czechoslovakia when they requested help. Declaring war on the soviet union would just make things worse for them. Also the soviets would most likely ally with the Axis and in turn just makes things far worse.

[jankren]

I take it from the video that France had the best army in the beginning of WWII, yes?

[Alkarin]

by what would you mean the 'best'? and are you assuming out of just the allies? or all of the world including axis nations?

[My Favorite Martian]

The French armed forces were strong in numbers and the equipment was not much worse than that of the Wehrmacht. Their weakness laid in their position, the lost of the air superority and the lack of sufficent mobile reserves to beat-back the break-throughs of the tank spearheads after Belgium and the Netherlands were over-run. France was a divided nation what may have had also some effects on the will to combat though this may be overestimated. Determining were the lack of operative concentrations of tanks and fighter-planes and the unablitity to regroup in time to slow-down the advances of the tank advances in northern France which had devasting results in relation creating panik in the population and the political leadership. I would think. Theoretically, the outcome could have been different and the Wehrmacht could have been annihilated.

[jankren]

According to the video the French Army was superior than the German Army at the opening of the war which was why Hitler was stunned when France declared war.

[My Favorite Martian]

I haven't seen the video now because I have to leave now. I will do later. The Nazi leadership and the high command of the Wehrmacht did certainly not want to fight a war on two fronts. You may also consider that the Drôle de Guerre during Winter 1939/1940 was a time when the both sides could build up further their forces. The differences is maybe that the Wehrmacht had already been war-ready for half a year when the allied forces were in the process of mobilization and it takes about six months to reach from a demobilized state to a minimal state of war-readiness. Every additional week improves the ability of the troop and what may matter even more of the commanders of field troops to fight sucessfully.

[Alkarin]

no he was surprised at the fact they declared war because he strongly believed the league of nations was a bunch of push overs and thought they would basically give him a free hand to take what he wanted. but when he invaded Poland and France and Britain retaliated he was in a bit of shock that they would do this.

[jankren]

no he was surprised at the fact they declared war because he strongly believed the league of nations was a bunch of push overs and thought they would basically give him a free hand to take what he wanted. but when he invaded Poland and France and Britain retaliated he was in a bit of shock that they would do this.

Well the former German general in the video said that the German air force for example still didnt have nothing when France declared war.

[My Favorite Martian]

Still, Winter 1939/40 would not have been a good time for a French push over the Rhine. The success would not have been guaranteed.

[Alkarin]

well the bulk of the german army was on the eastern front attacking poland with only a slight garrison force on the borders to the west. so yes they had almost nothing when france declared war and were shocked by it. The german technology was better than the french tech in almost every way, they had better tanks, better planes bettler rifles and machine guns and had radios. The problem was they were all in poland killing polish hussars!

[SonOfAlexander]

The title says it all doesnt it? How HITLER lost the war. Not Rommel, Keitel, Goering or any other Nazi official, but Hitler.

If, in about 1941 Hitler had been ousted/assassinated there would have been a big difference. Germany would almost certainly have won the war. Remember that Germnay's defeats were really a german sure victory that was *** up by Hitler just before it was complete, letting the allies come back and win. Even as late as D-Day. If Rommel had been in charge then, they might well have repulsed the allies and been able to halt the decline of the Ostfront.

[Digbert]

Genius Poles. Charging tanks with horses. Poland should belong to Germany just for that reason. Lolz

I know the poles are insane when it comes to fighting

[Mangalore]

The title says it all doesnt it? How HITLER lost the war. Not Rommel, Keitel, Goering or any other Nazi official, but Hitler.

If, in about 1941 Hitler had been ousted/assassinated there would have been a big difference. Germany would almost certainly have won the war. Remember that Germnay's defeats were really a german sure victory that was *** up by Hitler just before it was complete, letting the allies come back and win. Even as late as D-Day. If Rommel had been in charge then, they might well have repulsed the allies and been able to halt the decline of the Ostfront.

Well, the Wehrmacht generals failed to see some of the risks as well, e.g. they themselves didn't stipulate fallback plans for Barbarossa as if it were a "succeed or be damned" scenario (which they turnt that way because they didn't ponder when to reevaluate their strategic position if things didn't proceed accoriding to plan).

Without Hitler Germany most likely would not have engaged in war the way he did in general. Maybe choosing a defensive posture against the Soviet Union. It did Russia in in WW1 that German counteroffensives dispelled their successes and inflicted massive casualties year after year. Poland and the Eastern European countries would have given germany the same strategic depth. Overall a smart guy like Bismarck would have stopped conquering and gambling post Austria or at latest the Sudetenland taking home the cake without a fight in the first place...