Incorporating Daenerys and the Eastern Continent

[Exarch]

dear westeros ppl

congratulations and thank you thank you thank you so much for a brilliant job on this mod

my favourite character in the ASOIAF series is daenerys and her conquests of astapor and meereen
so could we perhaps look forward to a map extension incorporating Ghis and the summer lands?

and perhaps later on someone could mod in Dragons as a unique unit.......
then we could all replay the field of fire as Aegon the conqueror.....

please and thank you

[stormbringer951]

A map expansion or a territorial campaign would be good, but outside the original scope of this mod. If and when we get this out of the door, I swear we''ll look at adding in Easteros

[Arthur Artorius]

Adding in dragons probably won't happen. At most they'll become a unique ancillary attached to Daenarys.

Also regarding Easteros. There is still no accurate map of most of that continent so a lot of the placement of coastlines and cities would be pure conjecture. Although I too would love to see it added conjecture or not, it won't be for a while that we get to that.

[Orko]

maybe a mini campaign about Dany's campaign in Slaver's bay? but that will probably not happen. Though would be cool.

BTW It is Essos and not Easteros.

[Arthur Artorius]

maybe a mini campaign about Dany's campaign in Slaver's bay? but that will probably not happen. Though would be cool.

BTW It is Essos and not Easteros.

Yeah... my mind wanders. I was confusing with Sothoryos (sp?) the southern continent we don't know anything about.

[Exarch]

we alreayd have the map of the summer lands, gents and ladies:


so as we can see, you can easily replicate daenerys' trek to meereen, tho i cant find Qarth anywhere or vaes tolorro

i'd like very much to do as daenerys once wanted to 'make vaes tolorro' bloom

[Orko]

I think if there should be a campaign about Dany's conquest of Slaver's bay, it should only focus on Slaver's bay itself. Here is the proposal for factions:
House Targaryen(dany)(horde)
Free Astapor
Astapor(emergent)
Yunkai
Mereen

[Exarch]

I think if there should be a campaign about Dany's conquest of Slaver's bay, it should only focus on Slaver's bay itself. Here is the proposal for factions:
House Targaryen(dany)(horde)
Free Astapor
Astapor(emergent)
Yunkai
Mereen

aye it culd be a short campaign indeed
since MArtin hasnt elaborated as to what this 'Doom' of Valyria is, i dont think Valyria should be included unless....

and how about this for a bit of fun
could a modder (since i know nothing about modding) find a way to have a surprise Khal (modelled off mongol faction) emerge somewhere whilst you're campaigning?

what fun!

[Arthur Artorius]

A mini campaign could be implemented separate of the Westeros campaign, yes it is possible. Will we be doing that any time soon? Probably not.

Here's the thing, that map only includes the area around Slaver's Bay and Valyria. However, by the time we get a Westeros campaign finished, and I mean finished finished, there may or may not be a complete map. Since the upcoming books are including more and more about the east I should think we'll see an eastern map eventually. If that's the case then we'll try and extend the map east and include Essos and Westeros on the same map. However, I don't know if this can be done due to size constraints. The other option will be to include a separate eastern campaign around Slavers Bay. That'll happen if: there's no definitive eastern map and we don't want to work with the unofficial ones in existence, we can't fit all of the SoIaF world into one grand map, or we decide it would be easier or better to implement a split campaign scenario.

Regardless, none of this will be taking place for some time.

[Orko]

Maybe a mini-campaign just for fun after 1.0 is released?

[Exarch]

pwetty pwetty pwease?

[Arthur Artorius]

Exactly that's what I mean. By the time 1.0 is released there's a chance ADWD will already be out. I won't give any estimates though. You never give estimates is something I learned modding elsewhere "its done when its done" is always a watchword.

But if that's the case we might get a full map. If not, well we have to go somewhere lets just say that

[Exarch]

Exactly that's what I mean. By the time 1.0 is released there's a chance ADWD will already be out. I won't give any estimates though. You never give estimates is something I learned modding elsewhere "its done when its done" is always a watchword.

But if that's the case we might get a full map. If not, well we have to go somewhere lets just say that

thanks arthur
what i like about total war games is the open endedness
how hard or easy is it to code in a dragon unit?

[stormbringer951]

Very hard. There is a dragon in one of the fantasy mods somewhere, I believe. If we could get permission we could probably build one off them.

The thing is, it wouldn't be a flying dragon. It would be trapped on the ground forever, as I'm pretty sure Total War doesn't support flying units.

[Werthead]

There will be a canon map of the Free Cities in A Dance with Dragons, and further canon maps of parts of Essos will appear in The World of Ice and Fire due a few months later. So I strongly recommend any mapping of the eastern continent waits until then.

Given the pace of development here just on WTW itself, I would say it's unlikely we'll have even finished WTW by the time those books come out, especially given our current lack of skinners.

Also, and I'll try to be as non-spoilery as possible here, we definitely want to wait until ADWD is out before we do any kind of military campaign based around Dany's adventures, as:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

We'll have several factions to add, such as the Golden Company, the Qartheen, the Dothraki and more

[Arthur Artorius]

Then the release will coincide well with our progress. By the time we get around to planning an eastern stage there will be information aplenty available.

As far as dragon units go, it seems pretty OP, since Dany only has 3 dragons there can't be a way to "recruit" (hatch?) more of them. Unless there's compelling evidence in the upcoming books that there are in fact more dragons about...

[Double A]

You may have to make the retinue limit larger than 8, unless you'd do Belwar and the ex-Kingsguard (name escapes me at the moment) as generals.

Wait that reminds me, there would be no way to have succession so the campaign would auto-end when Dany died...

[Arthur Artorius]

You may have to make the retinue limit larger than 8, unless you'd do Belwar and the ex-Kingsguard (name escapes me at the moment) as generals.

Wait that reminds me, there would be no way to have succession so the campaign would auto-end when Dany died...

We'll cross those bridges when we come to them.

[Exarch]

You may have to make the retinue limit larger than 8, unless you'd do Belwar and the ex-Kingsguard (name escapes me at the moment) as generals.

Wait that reminds me, there would be no way to have succession so the campaign would auto-end when Dany died...

IF dany dies,
i'm imagining it to be like Alexander:total war where you have to lead your khalasar and be wary of other dothraki hordes (much like dany is in the book)

regarding the map, i believe martin imagined the continent sothoryos to be like africa

[stormbringer951]

Barristan Selmy?