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    Default The baby P case.

    Well anyone living in Britain or Ireland have heard of the desperate and horrible story of baby P.

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    Here is the question I want to ask. Is the death sentence appropriate for this kind of disgusting act? In case it doesn't say in the article, the mother got 5 years and father 12 years.

    Life is cheap these days.

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    Cases like these really do make you wonder whether abolishing the death sentence was in the nation's best interests, don't they? The two of them should atleast be prevented from having children again, by medical procedure if necessary.

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    Both of them deserve to be thrown screaming from a helicopter.

    And fire that damn doctor who examined the baby and couldn't identify friggin' broken ribs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankbuster View Post
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    Both of them deserve to be thrown screaming from a helicopter.

    And fire that damn doctor who examined the baby and couldn't identify friggin' broken ribs!



    Watch what you say about doctors, kiddo. They put you to sleep. While working on you. Saving your life.



    You want them to have second thoughts? (which actually is against the law)
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    It's been a while since we had a death penalty debate. I'm neither pro or contra, really. I don't really care what we do to them.
    Either we put them in prison for life, or we kill them. Either way, we get rid of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Czar9109 View Post
    Watch what you say about doctors, kiddo. They put you to sleep. While working on you. Saving your life.
    Read the bloody comment before making stupid remarks, pal.

    "And fire that damn doctor who examined the baby and couldn't identify friggin' broken ribs!"

    That doctor is incompetent. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankbuster View Post
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    Both of them deserve to be thrown screaming from a helicopter.

    And fire that damn doctor who examined the baby and couldn't identify friggin' broken ribs!
    Fire? Kill.
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    Terrible

    Time and time again after all these incidents and they can't get it through their damn thick skulls that something is wrong.



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    That article's pretty old, it's from last year...I think I've seen this before

    But damn, those bastards deserve to be tossed into a pool of starving sharks wearing only bait and torn to shreds on live camera

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    How could they only get 12 and 5 years? They tortured their child. I mean a broken back and bleeding around the spine. Try and imagine the pain that child was going through.

    It is sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    How could they only get 12 and 5 years? They tortured their child. I mean a broken back and bleeding around the spine. Try and imagine the pain that child was going through.

    It is sick.
    Its because in Britain its no longer crime and punishment its crime and "rehabilitation" apparantly when people are rehabilitated and not punished their less likely to re-offend.

    Tho i agree this is not a rehabilitation case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adhamh Ashashi View Post
    How could they only get 12 and 5 years? They tortured their child. I mean a broken back and bleeding around the spine. Try and imagine the pain that child was going through.

    It is sick.
    Agreed. And death sentence should apply to all such cases regardless of the age of victims.

    Such animals should not live in the world.

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    I do find it ironic that we (Britain, that is) have police forces with some pretty scary powers and have what is nearly a surveillance state, but still have a punishment system that is woefully inadequite.

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    Oh talk sense. You can't just pick up a particular case of child abuse just because it got picked up by the media and say "death penalty on this one". If we try to recognise reality for one moment we would have to legislate the death penalty for murder - and that would inevitably result in innocent people being mistakenly executed - murder would beget more murder. No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Oh talk sense. You can't just pick up a particular case of child abuse just because it got picked up by the media and say "death penalty on this one". If we try to recognise reality for one moment we would have to legislate the death penalty for murder - and that would inevitably result in innocent people being mistakenly executed - murder would beget more murder. No.
    You make a fair point about the media hype, but even looking at it in an objective manner leaves it horrifying. The deliberate and continued torture of a child until death surely warrants a more severe punishment (death sentence or otherwise, I'm not specifying here) than 5 or even 12 years in prison. Not only any prison, a British prison, which is really a holiday camp with mandatory attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    You make a fair point about the media hype, but even looking at it in an objective manner leaves it horrifying. The deliberate and continued torture of a child until death surely warrants a more severe punishment (death sentence or otherwise, I'm not specifying here) than 5 or even 12 years in prison. Not only any prison, a British prison, which is really a holiday camp with mandatory attendance.
    Again, I don't give a toss about this particular case. What we have here is a suggestion infinitely more barbaric; the institutionalised execution of potentially God knows how many people.

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    Whoa you're talking offing people in masses for various crimes.
    In the US many are on death row but usually end up dying of old age. Any time someone is excecuted is a big news story.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DekuTrash View Post
    Whoa you're talking offing people in masses for various crimes.
    In the US many are on death row but usually end up dying of old age. Any time someone is excecuted is a big news story.
    I don't really see the difference in principle between a handful and a thousand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Again, I don't give a toss about this particular case. What we have here is a suggestion infinitely more barbaric; the institutionalised execution of potentially God knows how many people.
    As I said, I wasn't specifically advocating the death sentence in my reply to your post (though in my opinion the death sentence is entirely justified in cases such as this), what I was advocating was a more severe punishment than 12 years in a comfortable jail. We need to create a harsher punishment system for crimes as horrific as this.

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    Immediate execution is extremely rare, those sitting on death row usually wait a long time before their up. That's why so many appeal the case again and again pushing the date back, before you know it they're dead of old age.

    They should at least have life sentences for such an act.



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