Treebeard

**Blackorc** · August 11, 2009, 02:33 AM

When I was playing my Isengard campain after +-50 turns I got last march of the ents

So I was verry excited about those 42 ents but in 5 turns rohan rushed to the ents and killed them all

Rohan killing Treebeard is A bit disapointing, is there anyway how I can fix this

**Caesar'** · August 11, 2009, 02:38 AM

kinda ruin the immersion

i think this sub mod should be added

need some tweak too

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=285598

**Blackorc** · August 11, 2009, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Caesar'

kinda ruin the immersion

i think this sub mod should be added

need some tweak too

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=285598

Ty I gonne download this after my campain

**Inarus** · August 11, 2009, 06:06 AM

Ents as a Faction is brilliant and unlike being mercs IT GOES WITH LORE.

If Thranduil himself had walked into fangorn and said come on fight with us we will give you money they would have told him to

off.

ENTS DO NOT CARE ABOUT MONEY SO WHY WOULD THEY FIGHT AS MERCENARIES?

**Lordinquisitor** · August 11, 2009, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Inarus

Ents as a Faction is brilliant and unlike being mercs IT GOES WITH LORE.

If Thranduil himself had walked into fangorn and said come on fight with us we will give you money they would have told him to

off.

ENTS DO NOT CARE ABOUT MONEY SO WHY WOULD THEY FIGHT AS MERCENARIES?

Sadly both mercenaries and faction are not quite lore conform.

**Inarus** · August 11, 2009, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor

Sadly both mercenaries and faction are not quite lore conform.

The Ents were not influenced by anything but the threat of Saruman. Nobody asked them for help. So they are moreso faction than merc

**axnsan** · August 11, 2009, 02:43 AM

See, that's one of the reasons ents should be a faction

**Lordinquisitor** · August 11, 2009, 06:27 AM

Treebeard summed it up quite fitting:

Out of Memory:

"I`m on no ones side, because no one is on my side."

/edit

As an faction ents are able to do many weird things.

**Isildor** · August 11, 2009, 06:31 AM

"I`m on no ones side, because no one is on my side."
This shows that he is free and not addicted to someone. The ents are free and decide themselfs.. So they act like a own fraction.

**Lordinquisitor** · August 11, 2009, 06:37 AM

Act like one, yes as i wanted to express. Are one, indeed. But making them an faction ingame could lend to very "un-entish" actions.

The flavor behind ents as mercenaries is, that you aren`t actually paying them, but they help you. Ofc not quite lore conform- But the best solution we have, when we want player commandable ent units.

**Isildor** · August 11, 2009, 06:56 AM

Why don't make them a mini faction? They could have on settlement (Fangorn), only some units, whitout the possibility to recruit new one, and some entish buildings.

**Inarus** · August 11, 2009, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Isildor

Why don't make them a mini faction? They could have on settlement (Fangorn), only some units, whitout the possibility to recruit new one, and some entish buildings.

Can you play as a mini faction cause if not there's a reason against.

**MasterBigAb** · August 11, 2009, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor

Act like one, yes as i wanted to express. Are one, indeed. But making them an faction ingame could lend to very "un-entish" actions.

The flavor behind ents as mercenaries is, that you aren`t actually paying them, but they help you. Ofc not quite lore conform- But the best solution we have, when we want player commandable ent units.

There i agree 101 %
An ent faction is against lore as ents as mercs are....
but i think it's more likley that they help some elves than that they act as a unique faction....
So i think this submod is more or less the perfect solution, cause both is ok but not really lore whise and everybody can decide how he want to have them...

**Blackorc** · August 11, 2009, 07:14 AM

Lol i dont care it doesn't lore based, ents are just badass

And Ent faction is good idea but their only mission should be taking isengard and turning isengard into a farm

**MasterBigAb** · August 11, 2009, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Blackorc

Lol i dont care it doesn't lore based, ents are just badass

And Ent faction is good idea but their only mission should be taking isengard and turning isengard into a farm

yeah !!

**P|A|ntZ** · August 11, 2009, 07:50 AM

As a faction, ents would start doing some pretty silly things. I can't imagine how disappointing it would be for them to strike up a trade agreement with OotMM or form an alliance with Rhun.

I think that Huorns should be added as bandits primarily in areas of the campaign map that are old forest; Fangorn and Mirkwood. There could also be chances of them spawning elsewhere in forested areas. Huorns could have a faster refresh rate than ent mercenaries.

The bandit huorns would ambush on the campaign map, and have the ability to hide when moving (and still) on the battle map. They would attack all factions except elven ones.

Keep ents as they are; occasional mercenaries recruitable only by elves.

**OfficerJohn** · August 11, 2009, 07:00 AM

Not only a faction, an EMERGANT faction.
IMHO.

**axnsan** · August 11, 2009, 07:01 AM

Seeing that they were around for thousands of years... where's the logic in making them emergent?

**OfficerJohn** · August 11, 2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by axnsan

Seeing that they were around for thousands of years... where's the logic in making them emergent?

Seeing as they just walked around doing nothing for a long time, they can attack Isengard under the right conditions

That's my suggestion, at least.

**DeliCiousTZM** · August 11, 2009, 08:14 AM

Expands ents make them to faction in their own right. Give them smaller squads for the Huorns .groups of 50 trees would subdue fine for regular infantry. add 2 more cities to fangorn. One on the west side where Saruman started to cut down the trees and another one further in against the Mountains called say Deep fangorn. and fangorn ofc. Make ent faction start in Deep fangorn. Give Isengard West fangorn from start. and poof mini faction. Instead of adding massive units to the rooster u can start with just 4 ent units all toghether. Maybe add some cheese elf like Guardians of Fangorn or something.