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    Default Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    By Chris Hedges | Truthdig
    August 10, 2009

    The American empire has not altered under Barack Obama. It kills as brutally and indiscriminately in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan as it did under George W. Bush. It steals from the U.S. treasury to enrich the corporate elite as rapaciously. It will not give us universal health care, abolish the Bush secrecy laws, end torture or "extraordinary rendition," restore habeas corpus or halt the warrantless wiretapping and monitoring of citizens. It will not push through significant environmental reform, regulate Wall Street or end our relationship with private contractors that provide mercenary armies to fight our imperial wars and produce useless and costly weapons systems.

    The sad reality is that all the well-meaning groups and individuals who challenge our permanent war economy and the doctrine of pre-emptive war, who care about sustainable energy, fight for civil liberties and want corporate malfeasance to end, were once again suckered by the Democratic Party. They were had. It is not a new story. The Democrats have been doing this to us since Bill Clinton. It is the same old merry-go-round, only with Obama branding. And if we have not learned by now that the system is broken, that as citizens we do not matter to our political elite, that we live in a corporate state where our welfare and our interests are irrelevant, we are in serious trouble. Our last hope is to step outside of the two-party system and build movements that defy the Democrats and the Republicans. If we fail to do this, we will continue to undergo a corporate coup d'etat in slow motion that will end in feudalism.
    We owe Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party an apology. They were right. If a few million of us had had the temerity to stand behind our ideals rather than our illusions and the empty slogans peddled by the Obama campaign, we would have a platform.


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    Default Re: Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tkubic46 View Post
    By Chris Hedges | Truthdig
    August 10, 2009

    The American empire has not altered under Barack Obama. It kills as brutally and indiscriminately in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan as it did under George W. Bush. It steals from the U.S. treasury to enrich the corporate elite as rapaciously. It will not give us universal health care, abolish the Bush secrecy laws, end torture or "extraordinary rendition," restore habeas corpus or halt the warrantless wiretapping and monitoring of citizens. It will not push through significant environmental reform, regulate Wall Street or end our relationship with private contractors that provide mercenary armies to fight our imperial wars and produce useless and costly weapons systems.

    The sad reality is that all the well-meaning groups and individuals who challenge our permanent war economy and the doctrine of pre-emptive war, who care about sustainable energy, fight for civil liberties and want corporate malfeasance to end, were once again suckered by the Democratic Party. They were had. It is not a new story. The Democrats have been doing this to us since Bill Clinton. It is the same old merry-go-round, only with Obama branding. And if we have not learned by now that the system is broken, that as citizens we do not matter to our political elite, that we live in a corporate state where our welfare and our interests are irrelevant, we are in serious trouble. Our last hope is to step outside of the two-party system and build movements that defy the Democrats and the Republicans. If we fail to do this, we will continue to undergo a corporate coup d'etat in slow motion that will end in feudalism.
    We owe Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party an apology. They were right. If a few million of us had had the temerity to stand behind our ideals rather than our illusions and the empty slogans peddled by the Obama campaign, we would have a platform.


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    Unfortunately your right but hey at least Obama is trying instead of not giving a dam to begin with like the Republicans

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    Default Re: Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    Cleaned the thread.

    Let's get back on topic, or I'll have to pimp slap everybody.
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    I still mantain a good pimpslap to be an excellent response to this thread.

    Ok I keed, I keed.

    What this lady seems to be arguing for is a radical socialist government. Did she really expect such a thing after George Bush? Is she insane? Did she honestly expect Obama to be anything other than a moderate? A moderate is what the American public voted for, i mean seriously you don't get political shifts of that magnitude in this day and age. Obama's government is different to Bush, but by less than many left-wing supporters (foolishly) expected.

    Incidentally, (and much to my disdain) i'm sure that Obama will bring about universal healthcare at some stage. Its a horrible idea, but will most likely occur.
    'I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it.'

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    LOL at the number of posts deleted.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Default Re: Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    Are any of you guys really surprised by this Obama is just an other suit just like Bush
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    Default Re: Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    Well since he was suppose to be history in the making, clearly yes.
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    Default Re: Nader Ws Right: Liberals Are Going Nowhere With Obama

    Too much bias in this article. Like ''Imperial'' wars... killing ''brutally and indiscriminately'' in Iraq etc.....

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    Wait Obama is a liberal? He's supposed to make us socialist? And he's supposed to do it all in 6 months?

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