Whats your trick against archers as Mordor?

**liddabit** · August 10, 2009, 07:54 PM

I'm trying my first campaign as mordor, and I'm getting chomped by large stacks of archers. I don't want to result to clumping several generals into one army just to counter them. Anyone have any tips? Thanks

**Warmaster Tibs** · August 10, 2009, 07:58 PM

Wait for trolls then run them over. Otherwise use your Nazgul bodyguard to charge them first and distrupt their archers and keep your infantry close behind to charge them when they are disrupted. Sending in some folder in Orc Bands in loose formation is a realy nice screan for your main army.

**Terafis** · August 10, 2009, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs

Wait for trolls then run them over. Otherwise use your Nazgul bodyguard to charge them first and distrupt their archers and keep your infantry close behind to charge them when they are disrupted. Sending in some folder in Orc Bands in loose formation is a realy nice screan for your main army.

Yep, always have a couple of units of orc bands you can use as an archery screen

2 Orc bands in long loose line in front

Archers next

Then your main army

What I've noticed a few times with this setup is the enemy sends his archers forward, they have skirmish mode on and run back and forth in front of your orc bands while your own archers get free volleys in

**Del Valle** · August 10, 2009, 07:59 PM

Use Black Numenorians to scare em off (run them real close to the archers then get away before the infantry can respond. This should give your Orcs enough time to reach the enemy. If they're behind the enemy line, use Black Numenorians to kill them.

Mordor really makes you appreciate calvary.

**Caesar'** · August 10, 2009, 08:07 PM

bring like 4 unit of siege weapon in your army .

edit: work even early game bring 4 ballista wen u got catappult you can mix it up

**saglam2000** · August 10, 2009, 09:10 PM

you will never beat the archers, archers = hell for you mordor players and always will be hell

**The Doge of Venice** · August 10, 2009, 09:23 PM

Sticking to sieges helps and mostly using a cheap unit in loose formation to draw the enemy fire.

**Lordinquisitor** · August 11, 2009, 05:13 AM

What? Problems with archers? Use your nazgul! I always put around 3 nazgul in an stack and they, without support, can wipe out even formidable armies just with their charges, cries and their fear. Once for the lulz i gathered all nazgul in one stack and blitzed gondor and rohan.

If you don`t want to use your nazgul use your orc bands! Just throw them at the enemy and they will soak up the arrows.

**Shocked** · August 11, 2009, 05:28 AM

as Mordor I had atleast 4 uruk archers and I had atleast 1 troll unit, whether it being olog hai or mountain trolls.

When the trolls go in I simply send in my whole army and own them, all at once,

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The only time I used the nazguls I beat a army of gondor back after the whole army routed apart from my general. I took out 4 units of soldiers, 2 of them being gondor spearmen so I had to maneuver.

**Abyrvalg** · August 11, 2009, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor

What? Problems with archers? Use your nazgul! I always put around 3 nazgul in an stack and they, without support, can wipe out even formidable armies just with their charges, cries and their fear. Once for the lulz i gathered all nazgul in one stack and blitzed gondor and rohan.

If you don`t want to use your nazgul use your orc bands! Just throw them at the enemy and they will soak up the arrows.

Or use another 2 or 3 armies without generals as reinforcments controlled by AI. Orcs are cheap, let them die gloriously

Map full of orcs, whith few Nazguls and trolls running here and there - this is Mordor's style

**Shocked** · August 11, 2009, 05:32 AM

I made my armies all the most elite possible..

They mostly consisted of Uruks and trolls. and it worked perfectly the way I did it.

I lost barely 100 each battle against armies my size or bigger.

**Lordinquisitor** · August 11, 2009, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Abyrvalg

Or use another 2 or 3 armies without generals as reinforcments controlled by AI. Orcs are cheap, let them die gloriously

Map full of orcs, whith few Nazguls and trolls running here and there - this is Mordor's style

Totally! But you have to combine the power of all 9 nazgul somewhen. You can siege and starve cities out, even those which take 10 turns, because no reinforcement will be strong enough to kill them.

**Blackorc** · August 11, 2009, 07:42 AM

When I play mordor in the beginning I build 50-60% of my army as archers, To counter their archers and it also verry usefull to siege a city and then if the enemy sails to attack you they all get killed before they even reach you

Because Ai is always years bussy to get all their soldiers out a small gate. And when you got your event barack event the real fun begins, Uruk halberd who beat gondorian soldiers easy and trolls

I also advice to use nazgûl to counter their archers because their cavalry is stronges cavalry in game I think