Adding a new unit, NEED HELP!

[corneliussky]

Hi there, atm i'm trying to add a new cavalry unit based on the hochmeister mesh, who i've given the the ritterbruder weapons and shield.
My issue is that i dont seem to get the battle_models file right...

9 valkyries
1 1
50 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/valkyries_lod0.mesh 6400
1
6 norway
95 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/teutonic_grand_master/textures/teutonic_grand_master.texture
102 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/teutonic_grand_master/textures/teutonic_grand_master_normal.texture 0
1
6 norway
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_diff.texture
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_norm.texture 0
1 5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

not changing the texture atm, just wanna see if i cant implent the model ingame.
just a picture of the model in max:

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from the kind of CTD i'm gettin the problem lies within the battle_models(screen goes black, then to windows, without any error)

Help please... ?? going crazy with not being able to get it ingame..
Followed the the famous higland gunner tutorial..

[Pnutmaster]

Argh. I know your pain, corne.

Maybe removing the 0 from the end of "teutonic_grandmaster_normal.texture" would do the trick?

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9 valkyries
1 1
50 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/valkyries_lod0.mesh 6400
1
6 norway
95 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/teutonic_grand_master/textures/teutonic_grand_master.texture
102 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/teutonic_grand_master/textures/teutonic_grand_master_normal.texture
1
6 norway
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_diff.texture
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_norm.texture 0
1 5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[corneliussky]

Maybe removing the 0 from the end of "teutonic_grandmaster_normal.texture" would do the trick?

Nope, just tried that... and tried it in any way possible aaargh

clueless...

after now checking my error logs i've found out that the problem lies within the EDU

00:46:53.797 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : max records exceeded from file mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/export_descr_unit.txt.

type Valkyries
dictionary Valkyries ; Valkyries, f
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
soldier valkyries, 24, 0, 1
mount barded horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.5, 4.4, 2, 6, 2, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 14, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 75, 1
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 9, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 30, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 4, 4, metal
;stat_armour_ex 7, 9, 0, 0, 5, 8, 8, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 8
stat_ground 0, -2, -2, 0
stat_mental 20, impetuous, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1165, 600, 85, 205, 1165, 2, 290
armour_ug_levels 0
armour_ug_models valkyries
ownership norway
era 0 norway
era 1 norway
era 2 norway
recruit_priority_offset 25

Now, i'm a bit new to all this... but where is my flaw??

EDIT: just as u know i'm using the stainless steel 6.1 mod

[Pnutmaster]

You've hit the max number of units. You'll have to delete a unit from SS before you can add the Valkyries to your game.

[corneliussky]

which means i have to remove it from EDU,EDB,battle_models ?

well, got it to work... but, a new problem... the lance and sword are floating in the air.. grrr.... and the textures are all messed up(shield and weapons(know how to fix this))

But thnx for the help m8.... hehe... thou have another problem to deal with (and ofcourse balancing the unit and stuff)

EDIT:
Shields are floating as well...


EDIT 2 :
Fixed the lance(removed the shields)

well, i'm now able to play with my dreaded valkyries (also made dismounted)... BUT, theres a big but... it is just the ritterbruder mesh, with new textures...(couldnt get the new mesh to work properly)

And here they are for all to see

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right now, i wanted to make a valkyrie-archer. Took the dismounted ritterbruder mesh, and added the bow from norse archers. Renamed both swords(and their group so secondary), and saved it out... but my problem now is... my battle_models file is wrong once more... (unspecified error, believe it comes from that file)

13 norse_archers
1 4
58 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/norse_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
58 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/norse_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
58 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/norse_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
58 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/norse_archers_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
1
6 norway
71 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Plate_teutonic_order.texture
63 unit_models/_Units/CM_Standard/textures/CM_Plate_normal.texture
1
6 norway
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_diff.texture
75 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
11 MTW2_Bowman
14 MTW2_Swordsman 2
19 MTW2_Bowman_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

*replaced the old entry of the norse_archers

any thoughts????

[Natanael]

your horse archer have a shield or not???? You give him a shield Animation!!!

[corneliussky]

your horse archer have a shield or not???? You give him a shield Animation!!!

well, for starters its no horse archer Norse, with an N second, they do have shields.. and thirdly i finally got it to work..

At least almost.. took the dismounted ritterbruder mesh, gave it a bow(using the norse archers anim)...
BUT, i cant get the bows to show ingame ...ofcourse there had to be another thing hehe

??

[konny]

At least almost.. took the dismounted ritterbruder mesh, gave it a bow(using the norse archers anim)...
BUT, i cant get the bows to show ingame

You cannot add a weapon to a unit by text editing. You need to change the model as well (I think the Ritterbrüder don't have bows).

[corneliussky]

You cannot add a weapon to a unit by text editing. You need to change the model as well (I think the Ritterbrüder don't have bows).

Aye, i know.... like i said working in 3ds max, so i took the bow from a archer model, and added it to the ritterbruder mesh, and changed the appropriate group.

But they still turn invisible ingame =(
still need help



*reguest:move thread to Skins, Models, and Animations

[Gigantus]

You will need a texture for the bow. By the looks of it you will have to make your own - Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_diff.texture doesn't contain anything for a bow.
1. Check the attachment line of the unit you took the bow from
2. See if you can put that part of the texture onto your teutonic one.
3. Use the texture manager (not sure how it works in 3ds max, using milkshape) to assign the bow to the texture.

[corneliussky]

You will need a texture for the bow. By the looks of it you will have to make your own - Final Teutonic Heads_teutonic_order_diff.texture doesn't contain anything for a bow.
1. Check the attachment line of the unit you took the bow from
2. See if you can put that part of the texture onto your teutonic one.
3. Use the texture manager (not sure how it works in 3ds max, using milkshape) to assign the bow to the texture.

Well, i found my fault.. the bow had primaryactive1 under group comments so with replacing the 1 with 0, they are now visible.. BUT, its floating...
My problem now seems to be with the converting to ms3d from max... i tried assigning it to every single bone, and then export it. But still floats.. tried importing it again, and the bow changed its weight to rhand.
Using ms3dImportExport_ver1_1 script (tried 1_3 but i got all these errors when i tried to import it back in, didnt work ingame either)

Now i've searched the forums everywhere for an answer, but i cant find it, many with the same problem but with no answer.
Tried gettin a hold of gmax(never used it before) as i understood it, it might fix this bug. but following the download link, runnin the setup file.. it only installs fraps..??


Any help please, gonna insane here ???


about the texture thingie, was not the problem, and wont bother texturing right now.. a bit too much work. just wanna implent this

EDIT: included my ms3d file here.. if somebody wants to have a look on it =) maybe give me hand