This is wrong, police brutality BS

[Haas]

Discuss...

[A pimp named Slickback]

What is the deal with white police officers and old, barely-walking black people? Are white people this jumpy and insecure? Are old black people really such a terrific threat?

[Bwaho]

wow that was some judo throw... she was holding a knife right?

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[Ó Cathasaigh]

happens.

What do you want us to do other than take disciplinary action against those involved? Ban Police? Give old people a free pass? Honestly, what do you want?

[A pimp named Slickback]

happens.

What do you want us to do other than take disciplinary action against those involved? Ban Police? Give old people a free pass? Honestly, what do you want?

Oh I don't know, stop excessive usage of force against pathetically weak people? Revolutionary concept, I know...

And " happens" is practically an argument that can justify anything. So it's a rather weak defense.

[Stavroforos]

It looks like she was holding something shiny or sharp in her right hand when she's on the floor.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

Oh I don't know, stop excessive usage of force against pathetically weak people? Revolutionary concept, I know...

And " happens" is practically an argument that can justify anything. So it's a rather weak defense.

Yeah, sport, that's why I said putting those who are involved through some disciplinary actions. One case does not mean that it's the norm. For every one of these brutality cases there are hundreds of thousands of arrests and such that do not involve police brutality. You have to take this on a case by case basis. Any attempt to blanket the entire issue is just silly.

[Phier]

Looks like a knife to me. Crazy old lady with a knife is disarmed and doesn't appear to be hurt, nor was anyone else hurt.

I fail to see the issue.

[A pimp named Slickback]

She was holding a knife? Even if she was, so what? I've seen police handle much more dangerous and threatening individuals than a granny without cracking them open on the asphalt. Unless she had a submachine gun inside her cane there is really no reason for this brutality.

@O Cathasaigh

Yes of course they are exceptions. We all know that, it doesn't mean we should downplay their horridness.

[Stavroforos]

She was holding a knife? Even if she was, so what? I've seen police handle much more dangerous and threatening individuals than a granny without cracking them open on the asphalt. Unless she had a submachine gun inside her cane there is really no reason for this brutality.

@O Cathasaigh

Yes of course they are exceptions. We all know that, it doesn't mean we should downplay their horridness.

Granny has knife.

Granny keeps on advancing towards officer.

Officer tells granny to stop or drop the knife.

Granny keeps on advancing.

Makes sense to me?

[Gaidin]

lol...woman with knife walks towards cop and ignores request to put knife down. What the hell did you think would happen Haas?

[A pimp named Slickback]

And so you should crack her head open on the concrete? She's obviously mentally unstable. And besides, the police are trained to handle even more dangerous people more professionally than this. All they need to do is grab her arm (she's friggin 60+ years old, so thats not to hard) and restrain her.. NOT knock her down like a line backer.

[Gaidin]

And so you should crack her head open on the concrete? She's obviously mentally unstable.

I'd like to see your credentials that allow you to make such a diagnosis, given that REAL psychiatrists don't make a diagnosis through a damn video and claim it's in any way authoritative. They make it via direct observation and sessions with the patient.

And besides, the police are trained to handle even more dangerous people more professionally than this. All they need to do is grab her arm (she's friggin 60+ years old, so thats not to hard) and restrain her.. NOT knock her down like a line backer.

The police are trained to handle someone with a knife closing with them in exactly the same way be they 20 or 60.

[A pimp named Slickback]

Do you know what this thing called "judgement" is? Or how about "discretion"? People use it all the time as they quickly assess a situation and apply the rules in a more relevant manner. If you really believe police should physically restrain a 60+ lady the same way as a 20 year old thug, then you're part of the problem too. And, lets face it - most of you would be crying a river too if this had been a white old granny being knocked over like this. Thats the truth innit?

[Dunecat]

Hi guys welcome to Ohio.

(Our Black Seniors will cut you!)

HOLY A CRIPPLED GRANDMOTHER WITH A KNIFE! CALL FOR BACKUP!

What I'm wondering is why the knife was in her hand at the start of the video. Maybe some one was harassing her, she wants cops help, cop sees shes black and assumes the granny was the thug.

BTW if you didn't watch the whole way through, the grandmother cracked her head on the pavement.

Just another honorable day on the force I'd say.

[Gaidin]

Do you know what this thing called "judgement" is? Or how about "discretion"? People use it all the time as they quickly assess a situation and apply the rules in a more relevant manner. If you really believe police should physically restrain a 60+ lady the same way as a 20 year old thug, then you're part of the problem too.

'scuse me. Knife. Sharp object. Stabbing wounds. To hell with you and your discretion. This is about the defender's physical well being.

And, lets face it - most of you would be crying a river too if this had been a white old granny being knocked over like this. Thats the truth innit?

Wow did you just call me a racist(given that I am a part of the group that is utterly unsurprised at what happened)? Or are you just making stupid assumptions again? I'll assume the latter for your sake.

[Ó Cathasaigh]

Considering I'm not a racist, I couldn't care less what color the grandma is.

[Barry Goldwater]

So a crazy old lady refuses to drop her knife despite being ordered to? What did you think was gonna happen lol?

Do you know what this thing called "judgement" is? Or how about "discretion"? People use it all the time as they quickly assess a situation and apply the rules in a more relevant manner. If you really believe police should physically restrain a 60+ lady the same way as a 20 year old thug, then you're part of the problem too. And, lets face it - most of you would be crying a river too if this had been a white old granny being knocked over like this. Thats the truth innit?

I really don't give a how old you are, when you advance on someone with a knife and refuse to put it down despite being ordered to you have to be restrained. Forcefully.

And if she had been a white old granny...who ing cares? Are you trying to call us racists?

[Imperator Romani]

Slickback, the officer didn't just do that because she was black. I'm guessing you like playing the race card whenever something happens to blacks. The camera didn't get a good picture of what caused the throw. She could have stabbed at the officer for all we know.

Maybe you're black. This would explain alot. ALOT.

[Dunecat]

Thank god the police were justified in this, who knows what moral questions would have arisen if they weren't infallible.

They followed "procedure", therefore- they are right.

*EDIT*- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=45187

The first and most recent example comes from a Walmart in Columbus, Ohio. In the video below this elderly woman named Virginia Dodson reportedly of 84 years old is standing in a parking lot and holding a knife. The reason for holding the knife was that Dodson's daughter left her in her car while she went back into the store. The elder Dodson, an Alzheimer's Patient, got scared because she was alone and cut herself out of the car seat belt, then got out of the automobile in search of her daughter.

Some young people had talked to Virginia in such a way that she brandished the knife. In turn they called 911. When the police officer arrived she walked up to Dodson and after asking her to drop the knife, violently slammed her to the ground.