Attila operation

[Medievaler]

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...-found-in.html
http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setime...09/08/10/nb-07

A new mass grave discovered in Cyprus, with 5 greek cypriots who were missing until now. Only one was identified from his DNA.

[Tiberios]

How nice At least, now they can be granted a proper funeral.

[Amry]

Not that I am denigrating the deaths of these people, but what's the definition of a "mass grave"? Seems like a stretch to me, calling a grave with five bodies a "mass grave". Wouldn't that sort of demean atrocities like what happened in Katyn or Saddam's actions towards dissident Kurds?

[Tiberios]

Yeah, I have wondered about the same thing. It would appear that, at least in the media, that any ´grave containing more than one body is a mass grave.

Not that I am denigrating the deaths of these people, but what's the definition of a "mass grave"? Seems like a stretch to me, calling a grave with five bodies a "mass grave". Wouldn't that sort of demean atrocities like what happened in Katyn or Saddam's actions towards dissident Kurds?

EDIT: Accodring to wikia a mass grave is:

A mass grave is a grave containing multiple, usually unidentified human corpses. There is no strict definition of the minimum number of bodies required to constitute a mass grave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_grave

[Stavroforos]

The fact that atrocities took place on both sides of the war during the Turkish invasion is common knowledge.

[BlackPirate]

I am a Greek and i will say this:Atrocities in wars happen.It was a tough period for Cyprus back then and both sides commited crimes.But todays division of Cyprus is very bad for the island.Unfortunatelly this situation seems permanent now.In 1960 only one to six Cypriots were Turks.Today the demographics have changed because of Turkish settlers.I hope in the end that Northern Cyprus will recognize that it is stupid to be cut off the most prosperous and important Southern part.This wont happen though with 40.000 Turkish soldiers based in the place

[Dr. Oza]

the turkish gov is pushing for unification thought

[Keravnos]

We have to hope, however hard this may be, that Cyprus' issue is solved.

I don't want to sound too pessimistic but unless both sides feel they win something out of a settlement, none will ever happen.

[Tiberios]

and considering the relationship between Turks and Greeks I don't really think I will happen any time soon.

[Keravnos]

True as that may be, don't we have to try? I am Greek, yet I do believe that a solution can be worked out.

[Tiberios]

Ofcourse it would be in everybody's interest. But i still think it will take some time.

[Medievaler]

I think it would be wiser from the Turkish side just to admit massacrating all these people than having them missing.

[Stavroforos]

I think it would be wiser from the Turkish side just to admit massacrating all these people than having them missing.

Greece and Greek-Cypriots have their own war-crimes to account for however, and neither government wants to admit to something like that because it will ultimately cost votes.

[Medievaler]

Greece and Greek-Cypriots have their own war-crimes to account for however, and neither government wants to admit to something like that because it will ultimately cost votes.

What war-crimes? Tell me one

[Tiberios]

According to your own articles, at least 500 Turkish Cypriots are also missing alongside the 1500 Greeks

Some 1,500 Greek Cypriots and 500 Turkish Cypriots are officially registered as missing in Cyprus since inter-communal between the two communities in the 1960s and during the Turkish invasion in 1974 in response to an attempted coup backed by the Greek government.

From http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...-found-in.html

So I would say there is a good chance that some of these 500 have been victims of war crimes. It's bound to happen in ethnic conflicts.

[awalanche]

According to your own articles, at least 500 Turkish Cypriots are also missing alongside the 1500 Greeks



From http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...-found-in.html

So I would say there is a good chance that some of these 500 have been victims of war crimes. It's bound to happen in ethnic conflicts.

Absolutely right. I think there is a good chance to question the war crimes of two sides. Wars are always dirty and there is no morality in war. What we have got after wars is sorrows and unpunished crimes. We can not relief sorrows but at least we can question war crimes.

You guys know that at UN controlled neutral region of Cyprus, there is a lab consist of Greek and Turk scientist to identify the victims whose bones were founded in unknown graves with DNA tests. I saw then on TV and they are really working hard to identify bodies asap. However it is good that things like that are started to debate.

[karo]

I think it would be wiser from the Turkish side just to admit massacrating all these people than having them missing.

The Turks are never going to admit anything like that Trust me on this one.

[Crimson Scythe]

The Turks are never going to admit anything like that Trust me on this one.

And why not? If it's true, then that's that. People are listed as missing simply because it isn't known what happened to them. Now that the bodies have been found, the investigators have something to work with. Tracking down those responsible will be tricky after 35 years, though. Vigilante-ism isn't likely to be in the official records of the Turkish military. Particularly if it was committed by Turkish-Cypriot paramilitaries, who generally handled POWs while Turkish mainland troops were actually on the front lines.

Your attempt to use this to push your own agenda is quite distasteful, however.

[karo]

And why not? If it's true, then that's that. People are listed as missing simply because it isn't known what happened to them. Now that the bodies have been found, the investigators have something to work with. Tracking down those responsible will be tricky after 35 years, though. Vigilante-ism isn't likely to be in the official records of the Turkish military. Particularly if it was committed by Turkish-Cypriot paramilitaries, who generally handled POWs while Turkish mainland troops were actually on the front lines.

Your attempt to use this to push your own agenda is quite distasteful, however.

Will Turks ever admit that they have massacred people and their army is one of th most brutal in the world. And I am not only talking about the Armenians, but about the whole Turkish history your armies has got the reputation of one that conquers and burns.

[PointOfViewGun]

Will Turks ever admit that they have massacred people and their army is one of th most brutal in the world. And I am not only talking about the Armenians, but about the whole Turkish history your armies has got the reputation of one that conquers and burns.

It hardly has such a reputation. It have proved that over and over again. There are only foul claims such as yours which starts to be annoying. Please get real.