Ancillaries and Traits Question

[Theodotos I]

With ancillaries, you can specify the receipt of an ancillary based on whether it already exists faction or worldwide. Can you do anything similar with traits?

[Pnutmaster]

You have the condition I_FactionLeaderTrait, self explanatory.

If you need more versatility, you can check the existence of a trait through the condition I_IsTriggerTrue.

First, you write a trigger that always fires if a character has your trait in question.

Trigger RivalCheck
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition Trait RivalConquer_Constantinople = 1

Affects FakeTrait 1 Chance 100 ; a hidden, artificial trait that will have no effect on your character

Because the trigger "RivalCheck" fires, you know a character has the Trait RivalConquer_Constantinople. Now you can make use of the condition I_IsTriggerTrue.

Trigger RivalCheck2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition I_IsTriggerTrue RivalCheck

Affects Whatever 1 Chance 100

Two limitations: 1) The trigger "RivalCheck" must fire before "RivalCheck2" and 2) the two triggers must fire in the same turn (AFAIK. If you're checking for an AI character that has the trait RivalConquer_Constantinople, make "RivalCheck2" test at CharacterTurnStart).

[konny]

The usual way would be to have the script checking if there is a character with the trait X and set a counter accordingly. Something like monitor_event CharacterTurnStart Trait X => set event_counter Trait_X 1. In EDCT you would tie the acquisition of this trait to the counter not having fired, like Condition I_event_counter Trait_X 0. You would also need to reset the counter once in a turn (eg. at the end of the slave turn) in case the character has died or lost the trait meanwhile.

[Theodotos I]

Thanks to both of you. Basically I'm trying to work with my Gondorian Victor submod for TA:TW. The first man to achieve a stunning victory over Harad becomes Hyeramendacil II(through the use of epithets--and because there was already a Hyeramendacil I in lore). I therefore want the next man to achieve those trigger conditions to become Hyeramendacil III. Looks like it might work.

[Mirandia]

one question needs help



Trigger ONERINGHUMAN
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition Trait Race_Human = 1
and Ancillary one_ring
Affects ABC 1 Chance 100


I think Ancillary one_ring was wrong.
With this trigger, when a character have trait Race_Human = 1 , and he has one_ring , he will have trait ABC 1.

but I think Ancillary one_ring here was wrong and I cant find any condition to fix it

[Gigantus]

and has_anc one_ring might work, although I only know about "has_anc type anc_type relic" for sure

[konny]

No, only Anc-Type (too lazy to look up the accurate spelling) works.

[Mirandia]

so it means look like this?

WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition has_anc one_ring
and anc_type relic

[Augustus Lucifer]

No events or conditions use _ in them, only commands. And they all capitalize each new word. There doesn't appear to be a condition to check for any old general having a specific named ancillary, unless it just isn't showing up in the docudemons.

Identifier:              FatherAnc
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:              ancillary name
Sample use:              FatherAnc holy_grail
Description:             Test to see if character's father posses this ancillary
Battle or Strat:         Strat
Class:                   FATHER_ANC
Implemented:             Yes
Author:                  Grig
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Identifier:              GeneralWithAncKilled
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:              ancillary name
Sample use:              GeneralWithAncKilled holy_grail
Description:             Test to see if a general with specified ancillary was killed in the battle
Battle or Strat:         Both
Class:                   GENERAL_ANC_KILLED
Implemented:             Yes
Author:                  Grig
---------------------------------------------------
Identifier:              HasAncType
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:              ancillary type
Sample use:              HasAncType relic
Description:             Test to see if character currently has ancillary with specified type
Battle or Strat:         Strat
Class:                   HAS_ANC_TYPE
Implemented:             Yes
Author:                  Grig

[konny]

so it means look like this?

WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition has_anc one_ring
and anc_type relic

No.

WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition HasAncType one_ring

You need to give the anc one_ring the anc type one_ring to get this working.

[Augustus Lucifer]

You need to give the anc one_ring the anc type one_ring to get this working.

Is that possible? Aren't Anc Types those broad pre-defined classifications like entertain, military, religion, etc?

[konny]

Is that possible? Aren't Anc Types those broad pre-defined classifications like entertain, military, religion, etc?

No, you can use whatever you want in that line. You can, for example, call each ancillary the "type" of its own name and make that command working as if it would be "HasAnc".

[Augustus Lucifer]

No, you can use whatever you want in that line. You can, for example, call each ancillary the "type" of its own name and make that command working as if it would be "HasAnc".

Talk about useless documentation.

[Mirandia]

thank you konny.

to Lucifer:I cant make them clear , Type dosen't mean red words?not a ancillary ,just a type....


Ancillary crown_england
Type office
Transferable 0
Image crown_england.tga
Description crown_england_desc
EffectsDescription crown_england_effects_desc
Effect Authority 3
Effect Command 1
Effect Law 1
Effect LocalPopularity 1