Simulating Unit Military Careers

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 10:22 AM

hello

is it possible to simulate a simple military career for units?

i would like that after X turns starting as soon as any unit is recruited, it dies (preferably desbands)

it's kinda stupid when you've the same units for centuries

i would like to simulate a army career, so basicly it would work like this as a simple example:

turn 1, recruits X unit

20 turns after the unit is disbanded

this should work for all units that are recruited, no matter wich faction, wich rank, etc

so is it possible?

**Gigantus** · August 10, 2009, 10:56 AM

Don't think you can do that for units. There is no way of keeping track of that as you cannot attach a label to individual units.
You can do that with characters.

But why would a unit disband after a certain time? They still have the 6th cavalry in the Us I believe. They didn't disband after Custer's death!

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Don't think you can do that for units. There is no way of keeping track of that as you cannot attach a label to individual units.
You can do that with characters.

But why would a unit disband after a certain time? They still have the 6th cavalry in the Us I believe. They didn't disband after Custer's death!

but the soldiers are not the same

and let's wait for Lucifer

**Augustus Lucifer** · August 19, 2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Swagger

and let's wait for Lucifer

As has been stated, doing things on a unit by unit level is just stabbing in the dark. In this post I explained some of the inherent complications with units, but that idea was still feasible. This one makes to many assumptions. It assumes all units will be attached to a general, it assumes they won't change generals, etc.

You can kill units on the battle map, but with no way of attaching a tenure label to each unit it would be hit and miss, not to mention annoy the player profoundly if it wasn't done through spawned/terminated battles(which I've heard are problematic).

**Lord Condormanius** · August 10, 2009, 01:12 PM

It can't be done.

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 01:12 PM

not even anything similar?

**Lord Condormanius** · August 10, 2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Swagger

not even anything similar?

You can't label military units like you can characters. You may be able to script something that keeps those units from being created, but not to disband them automatically. You can disband them manually, in-game.

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Condormanius

You can't label military units like you can characters. You may be able to script something that keeps those units from being created, but not to disband them automatically. You can disband them manually, in-game.

yes but that will not work for the AI

**Lord Condormanius** · August 10, 2009, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Swagger

yes but that will not work for the AI

That is correct.

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 03:56 PM

and i want this to work for the AI and player is possible

**Lord Condormanius** · August 10, 2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Swagger

and i want this to work for the AI and player is possible

As far as I know, this is not possible.

**Swagger** · August 10, 2009, 04:09 PM

can't something like this be done:

recruits unit

starts countdown

action -> disband/kill unit

----

i know there's a trigger to kill units, but i don't think there's a condition to pick specific units or so... the same for a countdown thing

**Pnutmaster** · August 10, 2009, 04:40 PM

If all units were recruited in the same turn, attached to the governor that recruited them, and all destroyed at the same time, you could have a form of time-based disbandment. However, units are constantly exchanged between armies and the only way to disband an army's units is through the battle map (last time I checked). The code would be more convoluted than convenient.

Pretend units maintain their number by recruiting and retiring soldiers.

**konny** · August 11, 2009, 04:16 AM

ASFAIK, you can only disband all units of a certain type at once. Say you have a counter starting when the first unit of Knights Templars is recruited, and when the counter has reached a certain value you can disband all of them per script, including those that had been recruited the very same turn.

**SigniferOne** · August 20, 2009, 12:41 PM

It's really not so bad realism-wise as you imagine. What makes you think that the soldiers in this unit are the same? The UNIT remains, but its soldiers could disband, enlist, rotate, all the time.

**Taiji** · August 20, 2009, 12:56 PM

Perhaps a script that checks and reduces experience when it's been at a certain level for a certain amount of time... (i don't know if that's possible)