BANNERS MISSING! HELP

[elledippi]

Hallo to all!
Some one can help me!
I install this splendid Mod since version 1.1, after this all troops in battle mod are without banners!
This happens in TATW and also in M2TW end Kingdom.

I play but it is very difficult to follow the evolution of fighting without the flags.
on you never know when some unit is about to drive away

I tray to see the options but I find nothing!

Thanks in advance

PS: This mod is the dream of my life, Than's a lot to all the modder!!! Thanks Thanks Thanks

[OfficerJohn]

Doesn't matter, banners sucks.
Oh, and it's intended in TATW

[King_Zeldarr]

it does matter thats why he is here seeking help if not going to plz dont bother

[Lordinquisitor]

What moment. Which banners? Those ugly things floating about your units? Be glad that they are gone! They got replaced by an flagbearer for each unit.

Though your medieval 2 shoulnd`t be affected..

[Brego]

If you want banners to show, go to ../Medieval II Total War/mods/Third_Age and open the text file named "TATW" and under [video] it says show_banners = 0, change the 0 to 1 and save the file, then you will have banners

[P|A|ntZ]

BANNERS MISSING! HELP

Banners won't display unless your caps lock is off.

[Dea Paladin]

This isnt the first time a thread like this appears

[Galain_Ironhide]

When installing this mod, the medieval2.preference.cfg changes (Meaning that all versions of the game you play will not have banners). Go into your Medieval2 Folder and look for that file. Then Open with Wordpad and scroll down to [video] and change Show_Banners = 1 .

That will allow banners to show in your normal non-TATW M2TW games. Also in the same file the default unit size has been altered to huge so you may want to change that if you have performance troubles.

If you want them off in TATW just do what Brego said.

[caralampio]

I really miss banners in the mod. Once battle is joined all you can see is a lot of black figures like milling ants, especially in snow. The fact that soldiers from many factions tend to have similar garb doesn't help. Very hard to tell which are your troops and how they are doing unless you zoom in (hovering the mouse pointer doesn't always give you enough info). Sometimes even finding a unit is difficult, especially if it has only a few men left, you see the icon in the minimap but can't find it because the sprites are hard to locate.

Regarding the flagbearer, first the flag is too small and second, he is usually among the first to fall and then no flag.

Some say that the "feel" is more "authentic" without banners. However all armies of antiquity carried banners up to the American Civil War and the reason was the same: Allowing commanders to identify units during battle. LOTR is a fantasy story and like most of these, it has a medieval setting. If you see the movie, the armies carry banners!

I find it strange that no one has made a banners submod, since the shields of each factions already exist it shouldn't be so difficult. Unfortunately I'm not very good at the graphics part of modding. Banners could be an optional (i.e. default without banners and if you want banners, install this little submod...).

I'm considering turning banners on, even if the factions will have flags from Medieval Europe, if only for the sake of playability.

[P|A|ntZ]

I really miss banners in the mod. Once battle is joined all you can see is a lot of black figures like milling ants, especially in snow. The fact that soldiers from many factions tend to have similar garb doesn't help. Very hard to tell which are your troops and how they are doing unless you zoom in (hovering the mouse pointer doesn't always give you enough info). Sometimes even finding a unit is difficult, especially if it has only a few men left, you see the icon in the minimap but can't find it because the sprites are hard to locate.

Regarding the flagbearer, first the flag is too small and second, he is usually among the first to fall and then no flag.

Some say that the "feel" is more "authentic" without banners. However all armies of antiquity carried banners up to the American Civil War and the reason was the same: Allowing commanders to identify units during battle. LOTR is a fantasy story and like most of these, it has a medieval setting. If you see the movie, the armies carry banners!

I find it strange that no one has made a banners submod, since the shields of each factions already exist it shouldn't be so difficult. Unfortunately I'm not very good at the graphics part of modding. Banners could be an optional (i.e. default without banners and if you want banners, install this little submod...).

I'm considering turning banners on, even if the factions will have flags from Medieval Europe, if only for the sake of playability.

If you turn banners on, they display as the TATW factions, not M2. They are a little on the small side, but accurate.

[caralampio]

I changed the medieval.cfg and the tatw.cfg to show banners = 1, I recovered my banners in the other games but I still don't see any in TATW.

[miniwally]

The banners are so unrealistic though so it should not be standard however it's easy enough to change it if you want.

[TheXand]

Realism be damned, the banners are an essential gameplay element, it's very hard to pinpoint where units are and whose they are, not to mention how hard it is to find depleted units of men and who is routing. I say keep banners and if people so choose then they can disable it.

[Rilder]

Try going into M2TW - > mods -> Third Age total war -> TATW.cfg and set them to on.

Modders trying to force people to play a certain way again =/

They also had it set to default to huge unit size too, which was a pain since every time I started the game and wanted to start a new campaign I'd have to set it back until I figured out the mods where trying to force you into playing huge unit size with that file.

Made me want to set unit size to smallest just to spite them.

[Galain_Ironhide]

Try going into M2TW - > mods -> Third Age total war -> TATW.cfg and set them to on.

Modders trying to force people to play a certain way again =/

They also had it set to default to huge unit size too, which was a pain since every time I started the game and wanted to start a new campaign I'd have to set it back until I figured out the mods where trying to force you into playing huge unit size with that file.

Made me want to set unit size to smallest just to spite them.

Now now, bashing the modders isn't at all any way to get things done. I am going to start a request thread in the sub-mod forum to see if any of those guys would be interested in completing the series of banners for the other factions.

They can only say no!

[TheXand]

There are banners for a few factions (not all) but they are extremely small, about the same size as the flags the banner carriers have. Don't suppose that you could make them bigger in your submod too? It would be a much appreciated submod by a lot of people I think

[sebas3n]

i have got a problem with unit flag . when i went to change banner 0 to banner 1 but it was already in banner 1, but i can not see the flags on the units are routing or not, in both games games vanilla and kingsdoms

exuse me for my bad english

[TheXand]

Hmm, it's maybe because you haven't set the file back to read only?

[King_Zeldarr]

Hmm, it's maybe because you haven't set the file back to read only?

how do your set the files to read only and also after doing the tatw i didnt care for it to much and got rid of it but my banners are gone in m2tw also and cant get them to work also the preference is damn near empty it only has [video]
widescreen=1
[game]
allusers=1
Show_Banners = 1 and i added the show banners part hoping it would change but nada i really dont want to re install it all

[caralampio]

Try going into M2TW - > mods -> Third Age total war -> TATW.cfg and set them to on.

Modders trying to force people to play a certain way again =/

They also had it set to default to huge unit size too, which was a pain since every time I started the game and wanted to start a new campaign I'd have to set it back until I figured out the mods where trying to force you into playing huge unit size with that file.

Made me want to set unit size to smallest just to spite them.

Now what I say was really rude was imposing "no banners" on the rest of your mods and vanilla, without even asking. A mod should not intrude on other mods or change the basic game.