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    why when i am defeat someone with some ring of power
    i dont get his ring? why it go back to moria?what the point in all this?
    and why the orcs from the misty mountion allways gets the one ring at the start of the campain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxman View Post
    1) why when i am defeat someone with some ring of power
    i dont get his ring? why it go back to moria?what the point in all this?

    2) and why the orcs from the misty mountion allways gets the one ring at the start of the campain?
    1) I have no idea why that happens

    2) Because no matter how much this is meant to be lore based, KK (despite his brilliance) missed the fact that Bilbo should have the ring at the mod's start.




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    3. The OotMM get the ring at the start because their generals are allready in the regions that the ring is appearing in, so its just a matter of luck which of their generals will get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeleton Of The West View Post
    3. The OotMM get the ring at the start because their generals are allready in the regions that the ring is appearing in, so its just a matter of luck which of their generals will get it.
    But the Ring should spawn in the Shire




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    Is it possible to skript in MTW that you get the ring if you kill the general who has the ring?
    Last edited by Isildor; August 09, 2009 at 08:39 AM.

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    Default Re: Rings........

    That already happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbews View Post
    That already happens?
    no it doesn't as mordor a gondor general end of with the ring after conqeroring the misty mountians i delcared an invasion to where he was located and i killed him with the Witch King. But no ring of power it is lost.

    Time to torture Gollum again
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    Killed the general at Moria who had the ring, and occupied Moria. No ring alas

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    I have the same pb, and for my minimod about the ring (the lord of the ring), it's problematic...

    I have contacted KK for explanations. Because the scripts are good, and and don't understand why it bugs.

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    Yes, but in the scripts it's possible to get the ring after a victory battle where the bearer dies. But in game it doesn't work... Ununderstandable !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirnaeth Arnoediad View Post
    Yes, but in the scripts it's possible to get the ring after a victory battle where the bearer dies. But in game it doesn't work... Ununderstandable !
    I had gandalf with gollum + the ring..the script worked very well for me
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    @ Nirnaeth Arnoediad

    Where is the proof? Did you really test it? I did and it did not work. I saw that Ork general die in battle. His unit did not rout.
    And besides, if you execute prisioners including the ring bearer it will not be transfered either.

    Here my Anc def:
    ;------------------------------------------
    Ancillary one_ring
    Type relic_ring
    Transferable 1
    Image Zthering.tga
    ; ExcludedAncillaries nenya, narya, vilya
    Description one_ring_desc
    EffectsDescription one_ring_effects_desc
    Effect HitPoints 3
    Effect Authority 3
    Effect Command 3
    Effect Purity -1
    Effect Loyalty -1
    Effect Piety -2
    Effect Chivalry -3

    the Trigger def:
    ;----------------------------------------------
    Trigger one_ring_battletrigger
    WhenToTest PostBattle
    Condition WonBattle
    and IsGeneral
    and GeneralWithAncKilled one_ring

    AcquireAncillary one_ring chance 100

    Name at the definition and the AcquireAncillary are the same.
    But it would be great if it would work with GeneralWithAncKilled. Or do you want to say I have to use the type instead of the name. May be that's it?
    Perhaps this way:
    ;----------------------------------------------
    Trigger one_ring_battletrigger
    WhenToTest PostBattle
    Condition WonBattle
    and IsGeneral
    and GeneralWithAncKilled relic_ring

    AcquireAncillary one_ring chance 100

    I just want to know because I am implementing a workaround at the moment for an other mod.
    Ah now I see:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirnaeth Arnoediad View Post
    Yes, it's like this, but it doesn't resolve the big bug about the ring ; how take it after a victorious battle ?
    I have to do it.
    Last edited by Aramiteus; September 23, 2010 at 02:37 PM.

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    It shouldn't start in the Shire because this was before Bilbo the hobbit was born... Besides, he had to go to the misty mountains to get it from gollum.

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    Bilbo born 2890

    50 yeaars later, Bilbo goes to the Misty Mountains, TA 2940.

    Mod starts 2954

    Do the maths, Bilbo had the Ring




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    i was able to get the one ring =] with some of my gen'
    well now he have 2 rings =] than one ring and the ring of water which he had at the start of the game but from what i am remmber the one that had the ring of power of water is his wife that elf witch isnt i right?(i play as silver elf btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxman View Post
    i was able to get the one ring =] with some of my gen'
    well now he have 2 rings =] than one ring and the ring of water which he had at the start of the game but from what i am remmber the one that had the ring of power of water is his wife that elf witch isnt i right?(i play as silver elf btw)
    Would you mind telling us how you got the ring? Because I've almost slain all the OOTMM, including the aforementioned ring bearer. No ring. Enough dead goblins to carpet Mordor, but no ring

    I wantssssss it!

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    Nirnaeth Arnoediad's Avatar Vive l'Empereur !
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    Yes but you get the one ring in moria, not after a battle ?
    Because the bug concerns the battle situation.

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    I think that the "ring trait" is added into a gen's char.sheet if left inside Moria for several turns...
    (At least that's what ive noticed during an 1.1. release campaign)
    However the first ring bearer should die before that ...


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    Default Re: Rings........

    After taking the capital of orcs(the mountain fort) and had a general there for some turns,He got the one ring trait.I'm playing the silvans.

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    On 1.1 I got the ring by conquering Mountain fort and Goblin town and leaving my generals in there for a few turns.
    (Played as high elves)

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