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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/us...rtinez.html?hp
    Senator Martinez Resigns Early
    By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
    Published: August 7, 2009
    WASHINGTON — Senator Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida, abruptly announced his resignation on Friday, saying he would step down as soon as Gov. Charlie Crist named a replacement, presumably before Congress returns from its summer recess after Labor Day.
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    Mr. Martinez, a former secretary of housing and urban development under President George W. Bush and former chairman of the Republican National Committee, had said last year that he would not seek a second term in 2010, and would retire from public life.
    But as the Senate left Washington for the monthlong recess, Mr. Martinez stunned his colleagues by announcing his imminent departure, first in a letter to supporters on Friday morning and then at a news conference at an airport in Orlando, his hometown, in the afternoon.
    Mr. Crist, a Republican who announced in May that he would run for Mr. Martinez’s seat, is now in the awkward position of selecting a temporary replacement to finish Mr. Martinez’s term. At a news conference in Tallahassee on Friday, Mr. Crist said that the search for a replacement would begin immediately and that he would not appoint himself.
    Mr. Martinez said he was in good health and was resigning to return to private life and spend time with his family.
    “This is of my own free will,” Mr. Martinez said, his wife, son and daughter standing behind him at the airport news conference. “There is no impending reason, only my desire to move on and get on with the rest of my life.”
    Mr. Martinez would not comment on who Mr. Crist might choose to replace him, saying he was leaving the matter to the governor.
    “I think he’s prepared to discuss a transparent and good process,” Mr. Martinez said. “I leave that in his hands.”
    Florida political leaders said potential Republican successors could include former Senator Connie Mack and former Representative E. Clay Shaw, who served eight terms in the House, representing Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach, before being defeated in 2006 by Ron Klein, a Democrat.
    Mr. Mack told local news outlets Friday that he was not interested in the job.
    The chairwoman of the state Democratic Party, Karen L. Thurman, called on Mr. Crist to appoint an “independent caretaker.”
    The top Democratic candidate seeking Mr. Martinez’s seat is Representative Kendrick B. Meek.
    For the Republican nomination, Mr. Crist is being challenged by a former Florida House Speaker, Marco Rubio, a Cuban-American from Miami, who is politically more conservative than the governor. Mr. Rubio quickly issued a statement calling on Mr. Crist to name a conservative replacement for Mr. Martinez.
    Mr. Crist has come under criticism by Mr. Rubio and other Florida conservatives because of his strong endorsement of President Obama’s stimulus plan, which Mr. Martinez voted against in the Senate.
    Mr. Crist, however, enjoys substantially better name recognition than the other candidates and a far bigger war chest heading into next year’s campaign.
    He raised $4.3 million toward a Senate run in fewer than three months, while Mr. Rubio raised just $340,000, according to campaign finance disclosures.
    On Thursday, in what turned out to be one of his last big votes in the Senate, Mr. Martinez broke with the Republican Party establishment by voting to confirm Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the United States Supreme Court.
    In doing so, Mr. Martinez, 62, a native of Cuba who came to the United States when he was 15 to escape the Castro regime, noted the historic significance of Judge Sotomayor’s becoming the first Hispanic on the nation’s highest court.
    Another high profile Republican bailing out. This is unusual. Comments? Not my senator so anyone have good thoughts on the cause?

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    Martinez wasn't going to run for re-election anyway. He probably decided that it would make more sense to resign just before his term ends so Governor Crist, who is very popular, can appoint someone. Part of the plan might be for Crist to appoint himself. The Republicans know that this seat will be very hard to retain so since Crist is popular, he might be able to hold onto it. Also, Crist now has the option to appoint anyone so he wants. Most likely he will go with a very moderate Republican because a moderate would hold the seat better than a conservative. Both Martinez and Crist know that if the voters are left to choose a Republican candidate to run for Martinez's seat in a primary, they will go with a conservative (Florida's Republican Party is still strongly conservative). It makes political sense to let Crist pick the next senator.

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    whats funny is that today I got a reply from him about a letter I sent A few months ago

    Anyway I wish him the best.

    And He's not cutting and running he is retiring to private life so dont mislead people by saying he's running away


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    Quote Originally Posted by nopasties View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/us...rtinez.html?hp


    Another high profile Republican bailing out. This is unusual. Comments? Not my senator so anyone have good thoughts on the cause?
    If the Gov was a socalist then yes it would be unusual, being he will be replaced with a republican its sort of a moot point. When I saw the thread title I assumed someone switched parties, this is a non-issue.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    If the Gov was a socalist then yes it would be unusual, being he will be replaced with a republican its sort of a moot point. When I saw the thread title I assumed someone switched parties, this is a non-issue.


    you have an american socialist party? They have governors? (Hint the Democrats are nowhere near socialist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    you have an american socialist party? They have governors? (Hint the Democrats are nowhere near socialist)
    Hint, I don't care what you think a socialist is.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Hint, I don't care what you think a socialist is.

    ahh so the dictionary is wrong, political science is wrong and you are right? Gee then you are a facist, Hint: I don't care what you think that means

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    ahh so the dictionary is wrong, political science is wrong and you are right? Gee then you are a facist, Hint: I don't care what you think that means
    No, you just know nothing of the history of socialism in the united states.

    Democrat isn't a definition, its a name.

    Because of the Cold War, McCarthyism, and dominance of the “Middle American” values, the Communist and Socialist parties virtually disappeared in the 1950s, when membership fell to below 2,000 members. Many Socialists left the party because it was seen that more progressive reform could be achieved through membership in the Democratic Party. Among those who departed were: Walter Reuther, Philip Randolph, and Bayard Rustin. Life was good for the average American, who worked fewer than 40 hours per week. Most received annual two-week vacations and had twice the income to spend as they had during the nation's previous economic boom time in the late Twenties.
    During the 1960s and '70s, the Socialist Party exerted little influence on American society because of intra-party conflict, as well as a refusal to support the anti-Vietnam War movement that was sweeping across America. In 1968 at the Socialist Party convention, members passed a resolution to support Democrat Hubert Humphrey for president, instead of nominating their own candidate.

    Now I know, while you have all that extra time in England, and getting your news from the Guardian you think you understand the make up of the American political system, only you don't. While all democrats are not socialists, at this point in the US all socialists are democrats. Even the interweb armchair socialists who post about how the democratic party isn't socialist enough, vote democrat. Outside of a few true nutballs out there no one who isn't a nutball themselves have never heard of, all the socialists in America are safely under the umbrella of the democratic party.

    More importantly the leadership of the democratic party, is more toward the socialist side of the equation than the rank and file (by a good margin). The term coined for this long ago is creeping socialism, America has to much pride and work ethic to go down the rabbit hole all at once, so we take baby steps into the abyss.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    Kinda of a weird situation where Crist will be appointing someone that he maybe running against, not a situation Id want to be in given accusations that he might pick a soft target he knows he can defeat in a primary. Course Crist's popularity probably ensures he'd has a great shot at winning it anyway. Im waiting for Ice Queen Pelosi's to step down for being a moron.

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    This is the only openly socialist member of government that I know of:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
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