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    What if sometime in the future homosexuality is found to be a genetic deficiency of some kind (which to most scientists that’s what it is) and can be cured as such?

    Even if I have and always will consider homosexuals as people who deserve protection and respect for their own individuality, this doesn’t change the fact that their sexual orientation is a deviation from the norm, one that has caused the ire of most civilizations at one time or other and many of the major religions in the world are against it. I have also observed that most straight men consider this fate worse than death sometimes. What if this didn’t have to be?

    I have to be honest here, this is what my own nightmare was growing up, that I might somehow belong to the “homos” rather than the “straights” I had always assumed I was part of. I was lucky enough to be straight. What would happen if I hadn’t been?

    In a city nearby, in a well televised incident, a child was victimized growing up, when he realized that he had cravings for men, raped, then, after his parents drove him away, wound up in Athens, becoming a male prostitute because there were no other ways for him to survive (an effeminate boy, alone in a large metropolis) and eventually having a sex-changing operation. When I saw this on T.V. I felt ashamed that this would happen in the 21st century. A person is much more than his sexuality, and if this person had been different he would have had a different life. Even if I do believe that the best course of action, right now, is to support this child and allow him to be among his own, what if the whole reason why he had been subjected to this is taken away?

    Think about that for a second. All this discrimination, terrorizing and brutalizing in the street or otherwise, is no more. I do believe it is wrong, as we are all people in the end, but what if it had no reason to exist in the first place?

    Of course this can only happen if science can find an exact link between genetics and homosexuality. Even if it takes decades, I do believe that the exponential increase of knowledge we see in our own times, continued, will lead to a much greater knowledge of ourselves and how our brains operate. Therefore, we can’t exclude a breakthrough in our understanding of homosexuality, which will lead to a cure. If what I have read about the homosexuals is correct, a huge amount of them, at some point, just want a regular life with a wife a children, even if that would mean the greatest sacrifice of all for them, denying who they are. What if that could change? What if they actually did really crave their wife? There have been well publicized events of straight men having libido problems with their girlfriends, who actually had testosterone deficiency at some point. Curing that deficiency, cured their libido.

    It isn’t as simple as that, in most cases, it never has been. Many people, the world over, have done research upon research for this matter and a lot of studies have shown inconclusive results. What may work on one person doesn’t work on another. This is exactly why a more concentrated effort is needed for us to be able to understand homosexuality as a deviation from the social norm, a difference which, even if miniscule, does lead to a very bad life (most of the time) for those afflicted by it. I do believe, however, that it will be worth it in the end. People are people, always have been and if a way exists for them to be better off in the future, they will take it, I believe.

    A lot of people have suggested that homosexuality is psychologically oriented, that a super domineering mother subconsciously shows her son that “she’s the boss” and the son takes after his mother that way, as males tend to imitate the dominant one of his parents. This, however, isn’t always true. Even if it does exist, it must have some association with genetics, because even in the same family, brothers with a domineering mother aren’t all gays. Even worse for that scenario, in typical families with a “macho” father, out of 4 sons, 3 may be gays, even with “proper” upbringing, which wouldn’t ever create a gay in any way. Therefore, genetics should be considered as number one reason for homosexuality, with “domineering mother” and other factors which affect persons as they grow up, playing role. It goes without saying that being sexually assaulted at a small age, has been known to change one’s sexual orientation, through no fault of that person.

    What is absolutely horrid is the realization of what life awaits a small child, growing up, when he or she realizes that they crave the same sex. It is so daunting for some of them, especially after realizing the fate of some who realized the same thing (prostitution, a life of being mis-treated for something they had no control over, the torture and pain inflicted on their family for what they felt as natural as breathing) that they kill themselves. In fact many teenage suicides can be attributed to the fact that those children found out they were gay and couldn’t cope with it, so they died by their own hand. Even if they may find solace with the only people who really understand them, (other gays), what if in the future there was a way for them to be straight? Wouldn’t they or their parents take it?

    There are just so many things we don’t know, that it is really impossible to be able to paint a clear picture of this. It is up to science to dot the i’s and cross the t’s.

    What is up to us is to establish whether that is moral. Even if those really affected by it, aka small children growing up knowing they should be part of the other sex but are not, are those who would want it most, even so, it is up to us to establish the reasons why this should be, or whether homosexuality should exist as it has for millennia.

    I don’t think anyone should doubt that a big part of art and culture was created by homosexuals. People who, belonging to either both sexes or none of them went out of the norm and created works of art for all of the rest of us to visually and aurally explore and be amazed by. There are brilliant scientists among them and technicians too. Not all of them do drag shows in shady bars. They have a higher average pay from the rest of us, and (monetary speaking) greater chances for a higher income and a better life. Would a treatment for homosexuality destroy them utterly? Should it?

    With all due respect to the homosexuals’ accomplishments, I believe that the children matter first. I am a firm believer of the parents’ choice as to what their children should behave like as they grow up. If homosexuality is found to be treatable AND the parents decide to have it treated, then it should be, allowing the child to lead a better and productive life than would otherwise be the case.

    If the parents feel that the choice should be up to the child, that is fine. Allow the child to grow up and make his/her own choices. However, there should always be a choice for that adult, even if he/she becomes a homosexual at some point to be able to receive treatment and become straight if he/she so desires, at whatever point in their lives. This would not only be reasonable, it would also be justified morally. To have a proper family there has to be proper distinction between a man and a woman. Children need their father as well as their mother. They need their father to act like one as well as their mother to act like a mother. Anyone of them failing to stand up to his/her responsibilities would have dire effects on children. Therefore for a homosexual to be a parent, they would have to get this treatment, to become a decent dad or mom, without ever being haunted by anything else.

    Where does that leave the gay community? Well, that leaves them those who despite all the choices offered to be anything else, decide to be gay. That right has to be respected and properly defended, I think, as it will be by those people that our own freedoms and tolerance is judged.

    So, in a nutshell, if such a thing as treatment for homosexuality is found, a couple and their child in the future could go something like this…

    1-In a pre-natal test, or one that is conducted shortly after birth, a child is found to have, say 40% chances of becoming a homosexual in later life. In this case parents have a choice of a) treating that deficiency or b) allowing the child to grow up and choose what he/she becomes in later life.

    2-In adolescence the child (whose parents took the b option) can choose on his/her own who to be in later life. That would mean a) being able to have some treatment for his/her homosexuality or b) remaining homosexual as he/she considers that a very important part of his/her character.

    3-Later on in life (at whatever stage after adolescence) those who chose 2b can have treatment if they want to have a husband/wife and family. I think it is fair to suggest that a family with children should only be composed of a man and a woman. Gay couples, no matter how loving they may be to one another can’t ever become a father and a mother. Those who do, can undertake the treatment, be rid of their homosexuality and start a family like all the rest of us may.

    Some parting thoughts of mine,

    -Homosexuality, no matter how people want to defend it, is a deviation from normal behavior. Our bodies were designed to attach to the different sex and only through particular points. Not all body cavities should be part of sexual desire, I think.
    -I understand that some will call me a bigot and that I hide behind the eventual progress of science to attack homosexuals. I don’t. I try to defend them. I think that the best way to do that is to make people realize that for now, homosexuals have no choice but to be who they are. What you have read above are thoughts as to what would happen if they had those choices.
    -My first and foremost concern are the children. Innocent children, who learn, growing up, that some random genetic factor or some family acquired dysfunction or even worse a pedophile, led them to become gays. I hate to see even one of them shooting themselves. I hope that in the future a permanent solution can be found to their plight.
    -There has been a reasoning that a society without homosexuals would have no creative spark, no arts growing and flowing, no finesse in all the things that make life beautiful. I beg to differ. A lot of what gays used to do can be picked up by women who are an integral part of society right now. Even more so, I think this point is mute. A person should be their work, their thoughts, their evolution to a better self. Not his or her sexuality. This means that I believe that a great scientist or artist would be who they are irrespective of what the genetic dice had in store for him or her. Taking out of the equation homosexuality doesn’t make them any less an artist or a scientist. It should be only by their consent however.
    -A treatment for homosexuality might be abused by homophobic regimes and societies that would screen people for homosexuality and forcibly treat those who have those tendencies. That is always a danger, but even if it does exist, it shouldn’t detract us the reason we must be doing this: saving as many young children as we can from a life that for most of them would lead to very sad consequences, through no fault of their own.
    -Those who choose to remain homosexuals, if they have been given a choice not to, should definitely remain so, be respected for their choices and protected for them. A society, in which homosexuals feel secure, usually thrives and has an art and cultural explosion. The homosexuals are the ones who will help the proper authorities identify isolate and put in jail the pedophiles among them who ruin children’s lives and sap them off the will to live.
    -I do believe that a society in which homosexuality is treatable would have less “homophobic” incidents with homosexuals finally secure in their sexuality (who they are is who they have chosen to be-not what their sexuality imposed upon them) and those who actually do assault them, being treated to the harshest sentencing. We are all people, after all. We are all the same. We must always remember that.
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    Of course this can only happen if science can find an exact link between genetics and homosexuality.
    Interesting issue let me ask something, There is a genetic link, for you to go to school, or to do stuff? there is a genetic link for your comportamental behavior? Scientists already find it that isnt no connection between these two factors. One example they give in Psicology class is , if you had a clone. And he was born in a diferent country, and raised diferently, then you. it wil be a diferent person than you with diferent behavior. Althought it was your clone, same genetic make up, same potencials, but diferent experiences since childhood, diferent prints in the brain, and mind.
    What you sugesting, is homosexuality, to be view as a sickness, folowing that reasoning, killing will also be a a sickness, but isnt that simple isnt it? There is no link between genetics to human behavior, the only link that exists is only the genetic potencial, the afinity for something, but that doesnt mean one will act in life acording to genetic afinity. Nature is very adaptative. So is Humans. They adapt acording to their enviroment. The case of the clones is a real one, there is cases, of perfect twins, who lived, and were raised in diferent parts of the world.

    Me, i folow my comum sense, and for me is obvious, Homosexuality isnt a disease, its a human behavior, easly found in nature amoung mammals also. Your questions also raise another issue, and is the cultural issue. How society view certan aspects of the human behavior. Keep in mind that along Mankind history, homosexuality was a transversal, reality in every human society, what changes is how we view it. Things like the defenition of beuty, ways of living varies, among time and places. You have the comum example of the ancient greek society, wich mostly in the upper classes they had a degree of tolerance between Human relantions. So the ideia thet homosexuality is something very bad, is purely cultural nothing more.

    Now as for my feelings on the matter, i disagree with your notions, im not trying to defend homosexuality mainly becouse i dont like "Stickers" in life if you kown what i mean. For me doesnt make sense. But i understand why exist. For me isnt Homosexuals or straights. For me there is only Human beings. i must say that i find most women more atractive,and i prefer it by far, but i will lie if i dint say that i recognize Male beuty also. Just dont have much afinity for that thats all.

    Homosexuality, no matter how people want to defend it, is a deviation from normal behavior. Our bodies were designed to attach to the different sex and only through particular points. Not all body cavities should be part of sexual desire, I think.
    Well you forgot to put a variation on your equation. Wich is Human conscience. The intelingence of the human brain, our abitily to perceive things, and to adapt. Our ability to feel, and take action acordingnly.To express those feelings. You forgot also love, who come in manny forms. Have you been in love in your life?
    If the world were like you said then we were all robots, wich porpuse was to mate with the oposite sex and live our lives without any concerns. if that were true we didnt had anything. Human society simply stoped to exist. we simply werent humans. Mankind always seek the meaning of life, always seek to understand. what im trying to say you cant ignore the human feeling. And the human will.

    Now i apreciate that you didnt mix things like pedophilia, prostitution with homosexuality. Its totaly diferent conceipts, who could be related,but isnt the norma(there is more Straight cases of prostitution in the world). Anyway Homosexuality isnt treatable, it cant be. On the other hand Homophobic behavior, can. Becouse is a cultural thing. It can be changed. Mentalities can be changed. also answering your question if you were raised by homos instead of Straights, i kown kids were raised by homos and they arent gays. Its a matter of education. I find the issue that gay people are more sensitive for arts, a arcaic conceipt. That simple isnt true. Now in conlusion i must say that i understand your notions, i dont agree with then, i think in idea, your post is looney. I dont mean to ofend, or antagonize with you. its just my opinion.

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    I know a few gay men who have stated they would want to be 'cured' if they could be because it would make their lives much easier.

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    Interesting issue let me ask something, There is a genetic link, for you to go to school, or to do stuff? there is a genetic link for your comportamental behavior? Scientists already find it that isnt no connection between these two factors. One example they give in Psicology class is , if you had a clone. And he was born in a diferent country, and raised diferently, then you. it wil be a diferent person than you with diferent behavior. Althought it was your clone, same genetic make up, same potencials, but diferent experiences since childhood, diferent prints in the brain, and mind.
    No there is a definite genetic predisposition to homosexuality. What it is though isn't like eye color where it is one or another, on or off, heterozygous recessive. Its a multifactoral trait which also seems to include environmental factors from the womb.

    Identical twins are not always both gay, but there is a 50% chance if one is gay the other one is, 30% chance for fraternal twins, and lower for siblings, while raised apart.
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    Not that I've looked into it, but personally I don't think there is a "gay gene". If that is so, then there has to be a gene that predetermines a persons preference for everything from food to colors to interests.

    So I guess stripped down the question would have to be, if we can find out what makes a person gay, is it moral or desireable to act upon that and prevent people from becoming gay or change them from gay to straight?

    I'd have to say no, you don't engineer a person you allow them to develop and mature as an individual.

    I don't support the whole gay pride movement, I don't feel it is something to be proud of and out in the open and celebrated. There are plenty of people who have to keep their interests private because the "norm" in society does not accept that or to some extents they may even be illegal, and I view the acceptance of homosexuality in society as the weakening of said societies integrity and morals.

    All that being said, I don't believe in imprisoning or hanging gays. Be gay if you want, but be gay out of the spotlight and in privacy.. A man who is gay, is not a man to me. I'm sure some of you will crucify me for saying so, but thats just my opinion as a heterosexual male.

    Homosexuality is poison to the family ideal and erodes the most basic building block of structured society which is a man and a woman and their children. This is what civilization is build upon and always has been and this is why homosexuality does not deserve a role on the center stage.

    In the interest of personal freedoms, indulge your homosexual desires if that is your wish. But do not expect the same benefits and rights given to the heterosexual family unit, and do not expect to be treated as equals because if everyone in the world behaved like you, there would be no family there would be no procreation and there would be no foundation for society to rest upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uos_spo6 View Post
    Not that I've looked into it, but personally I don't think there is a "gay gene". If that is so, then there has to be a gene that predetermines a persons preference for everything from food to colors to interests.
    Science says otherwise.

    While there is most likely not a single 'gay' gene, there are most definite gay predisposition genetics facilitated by environmental factors in very early development.

    Being many of my patients are children, I can often identify the 'gay' ones long before puberty, which as I've seen them mature has been later confirmed.

    One does not choose to be gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Science says otherwise.

    While there is most likely not a single 'gay' gene, there are most definite gay predisposition genetics facilitated by environmental factors in very early development.

    Being many of my patients are children, I can often identify the 'gay' ones long before puberty, which as I've seen them mature has been later confirmed.

    One does not choose to be gay.
    I once lifeguarded as a volunteer for this Grade 5 class and while I was talking to the mothers who came along for the field-trip about this same thing. It was pretty easy to identify the gay ones. They simply act differently.
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    Some people would probably have themselves treated. I wouldn't (if I was gay), and I wouldn't recommend anyone to do so.
    That said, homosexuality is probably not genetic. It's dependent on certain biological factors, but upbringing seems to play the most important role.

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    One does not choose to be gay.
    While some people happen to be more predisposed to be homosexual, this predisposition is probably of a biological nature, rather than a genetic nature. The idea that it's the genetics that make it more likely that someone is gay, has largely been debunked by what we know about homosexuality now. Instead, most scientists now think that you can acquire a predisposition to homosexuality through different chemical and hormonal atmospheres in the womb.

    It's also important to note that while some people are more likely to be gay, the upbringing and way in which the child develops seem to be more important.

    For example, one-egged twins (babies with the same DNA), are a lot more likely to be homosexual than other babies. They have about 20% chance. But of course, if homosexuality was completely genetic or completely biological, both the twins would either have to be homosexual or heterosexual, since they both have the same DNA and were subject to the same chemical atmosphere in the womb. Research shows that this is not so: the upbringing and the way in which the child develops seem to be more important than the deck of cards that the kids are dealt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Science says otherwise.

    While there is most likely not a single 'gay' gene, there are most definite gay predisposition genetics facilitated by environmental factors in very early development.

    Being many of my patients are children, I can often identify the 'gay' ones long before puberty, which as I've seen them mature has been later confirmed.

    Hmm. Either way I still don't support the idea of engineering individuals or treating homosexuality with a pill or as a disease to be cured. I just don't think it belongs in the mainstream spotlight. I don't believe homosexual couples deserve the same benefits and rights as a heterosexual couple.

    I support your right to be gay, but I do not support gay rights. The rights you are entitled to as a human being and citizen of whatever nation you live in apply, but you shouldn't expect a heterosexually based society to craft some special rules to cater to you.
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    A little pill to cure me from being gay! Sling your hook pal! I'm a happy homo and I wouldn't have it any other way.

    If you want to cure anyone, why not treat those sickos who think it's ok to beat up young kids and generally defile and discriminate against a significant proportion of this planets population: or deliver a stiff sermon, preferably attached to a cricket bat, to those religious kooks who think that standards of morality and behaviour were frozen irrevocably over 2000 years ago. Adopting their way of thinking, I guess we can only be grateful that Quetzalcoatl didn't win out over that Jewish fellow, otherwise human sacrifice would still be an ok thing.

    So, no, thank you for the offer, but you can leave your little red pill cure for my awful affliction because, frankly, I don't think that I'm the one that has the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony83 View Post
    A little pill to cure me from being gay! Sling your hook pal! I'm a happy homo and I wouldn't have it any other way.

    If you want to cure anyone, why not treat those sickos who think it's ok to beat up young kids and generally defile and discriminate against a significant proportion of this planets population: or deliver a stiff sermon, preferably attached to a cricket bat, to those religious kooks who think that standards of morality and behaviour were frozen irrevocably over 2000 years ago. Adopting their way of thinking, I guess we can only be grateful that Quetzalcoatl didn't win out over that Jewish fellow, otherwise human sacrifice would still be an ok thing.

    So, no, thank you for the offer, but you can leave your little red pill cure for my awful affliction because, frankly, I don't think that I'm the one that has the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony83 View Post
    A little pill to cure me from being gay! Sling your hook pal! I'm a happy homo and I wouldn't have it any other way.

    If you want to cure anyone, why not treat those sickos who think it's ok to beat up young kids and generally defile and discriminate against a significant proportion of this planets population: or deliver a stiff sermon, preferably attached to a cricket bat, to those religious kooks who think that standards of morality and behaviour were frozen irrevocably over 2000 years ago. Adopting their way of thinking, I guess we can only be grateful that Quetzalcoatl didn't win out over that Jewish fellow, otherwise human sacrifice would still be an ok thing.

    So, no, thank you for the offer, but you can leave your little red pill cure for my awful affliction because, frankly, I don't think that I'm the one that has the problem.
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    well if something like sexual preference could be changed in the future i'll make that treatment avaiable on personal choice. Everyone should be free in its sexual preferences imho. And i think that something like that would happen, the future world will probably see a lot of babies whose characteristics are completely programmed at the embryo stage. Today we already have countries such as India were pre insemination gender choice is going strong in making babies.

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    Evangelical cure for 'the gays'

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    I think it would be a personal choice for everyone that is homosexual to become straight through such an ordeal. It should never be forced. Not by their parents, friends or anyone. Its their choice alone.

    Personly I have nothing against homosexuals but I am against things as gay pride parades and such. They wont get any understanding for it this way, it just creates a huge gap between homosexuals and straight people, a gap that is normally not there.

    I do think I rather see other genetic deficiencies cured than something thats not hurting anyone.

    Like Autism, the capability of getting addicted, baldness and some other things that makes people personly feel a lot worse instead of the people in their enviroment.

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    What if sometime in the future homosexuality is found to be a genetic deficiency of some kind (which to most scientists that’s what it is) and can be cured as such?
    Assuredly there are some folks that would choose to remove the affliction. As others have stated that naturally that decision would be reached on a case by case basis.

    Once again, same gender orientation is predominantly genetic predisposition. I however do not feel that I retain defective genetics, but who can say really.

    Not all body cavities should be part of sexual desire,
    That's subjective. Also on a case by case basis......"To each their own in their own way".
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    Undoubtedly at some point in the future scientist will find a way to "cure" homosexuality and what I mean is designer babies. Once you start getting children with certain eye color, certain gender, hair color, removal of defective genes that can cause certain diseases it is only logical to conclude there will be *many* parents who want to ensure their child is straight. Of course when that happens there will be screaming but once you go down the road of designer babies you cant really stop it. Gattaca is our future

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    Looks like you would love to live in a world like the one described by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeros View Post
    Looks like you would love to live in a world like the one described by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World.
    Hope that wasnt aimed at me because...no thanks I dont want that world but once you go down that road its going to be difficult to stop.

    Normal behaviour is defined by the majority. Go to a gay village, or any other place where gay people are the majority, and what is normal changes and heterosexuality becomes an abnormality.
    And even the largest "gay village" would be a dust mite in terms of human population. What is going to happen gays are going to have "designer" babies who are homosexual at birth? I dont want to live in a world where different groups try and populate the world with "the right kind" of people whether it gay, straight or whatever. From moral and ethical standpoint how do you combat that? Does anyone have a right to tell a married couple that they cant ensure their child is straight? Does anyone have a right to tell a gay union that they cant go a step beyond their inability to reproduce and to ensuring gay children in response? The natural progression is once you have scientist able to shut off the "obesity gene", the various birth/disease defect "gene" that its going to get into far more mundane demands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Hope that wasnt aimed at me because...no thanks I dont want that world but once you go down that road its going to be difficult to stop.
    I was responding to the OP, but I'm glad you felt a little offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Undoubtedly at some point in the future scientist will find a way to "cure" homosexuality and what I mean is designer babies. Once you start getting children with certain eye color, certain gender, hair color, removal of defective genes that can cause certain diseases it is only logical to conclude there will be *many* parents who want to ensure their child is straight. Of course when that happens there will be screaming but once you go down the road of designer babies you cant really stop it. Gattaca is our future
    Gattaca all the way! The real true way of getting ridd of racism as we know it today. Even if the first generations will see what in the movie was "genecism" where "non-patched" humans will live along with upgraded ones till the first die out, its inevitable that this will be our future if humankind has not nuked itself before that.
    Read a napoleonic first hand account of a Hessian serving under the french flag

    Athenians: For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses - either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed;.......... since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Part of the Melian Dialogue in The History of the Pelopenessian War by Thucydides.

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