Any way to have each faction start with one territory?

[Taroc]

I was wondering if there was a way I could have each faction start out with one territory?

Only reason I ask this is I prefer to start with a small amount of territories and build up from there.(I don't have good organizational skills).

So could someone please explain a way for me to do it myself or possibly do it for me? Since I sorta fail at modding of any kind what-so-ever.

Thanks.

P.S- If this is the wrong forum my bad

[A1_Unit]

It can be done but it's a lot of work to do it.

[Dea Paladin]

This is really quite a simple thing to do, but it takes a long time to do, the only file you need to edit is the descr_strat file in the \Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign folder.

Ive made you a little tutorial:

Dont save the file until we are done, if you want to save it, then save it with another name.

You simply search for the first faction: Sicily, and "cut" all the cities which you dont want. Then you search for "faction slave" and you paste all the cities at the bottom of the slaves area. I would just like to note:
That these are the internal names for the factions and their ingame names:
sicily = Gondor
milan = Rohan
scotland = Dale
moors = Dwarves
turks = Eriador
egypt = High Elves
mongols = = Silvan Elves
england = Mordor
france = Isengard
hre = Orcs of the Misty Mountains
spain = Harad
venice = Rhun

After your done with removing all factions from their original factions and giving them to slave it should look like this for all factions except slave, there should only be one province, as example ill use sicily:

faction sicily, balanced smith
ai_label islam
denari 10000
denari_kings_purse 3000
settlement castle ;DONE
{
level large_city
region Anorien_Province
year_founded 0
population 4600
plan_set default_set
faction_creator aztecs
building
{
type core_castle_building citadel
}
building
{
type ecthelion ecthelion
}
building
{
type great_gates great_gates
}
building
{
type great_walls great_walls
}
building
{
type castle_barracks garrison_quarters
}
building
{
type missiles bowyer
}
building
{
type equestrian stables
}
building
{
type castle_smith c_blacksmith
}
building
{
type gondor_castle_academic gondor_library
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
building
{
type hinterland_castle_roads c_roads
}
}
character Ecthelion, named character, male, leader, age 68, x 239, y 128, portrait Ecthelion, hero_ability The_Heart_of_the_Lion ;anorien
traits Ecthelion 1 , Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , ChivalryLegacy 1
ancillaries steward_gondor, drillmaster
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fountain Guard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Forlong, named character, male, age 36, x 223, y 122, portrait Forlong ;lossarnach
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , HaleAndHearty 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Mistion, named character, male, age 27, x 237, y 101 ;x 286, y 139 ;lebenin
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodDefender 1 , Loyal 1
ancillaries troops_gondor
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Marines exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Denethor, named character, male, heir, age 30, x 175, y 106, portrait Denethor ;belfalas
traits Factionheir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodDefender 1 , ChivalryLegacy 1 , Just 1 , HaleAndHearty 2
ancillaries prince_dol_amroth
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Arveldir, named character, male, age 43, x 143, y 106 ;anfalas
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
ancillaries gondor_border
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Nirthor, named character, male, age 26, x 191, y 133 ;lamedon
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , Loyal 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Istdor, named character, male, age 47, x 196, y 113 ;tarnost FORT x 152, y 271
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Pelilas, named character, male, age 34, x 135, y 122 ;pinnath gelin FORT x 194, y 271
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Derufin, named character, male, age 39, x 183, y 140 ;erech FORT x 337, y 177
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Durven, named character, male, age 29, x 205, y 103 ;linhir FORT x 121, y 202
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Ohtar, admiral, male, age 32, x 205, y 94
army
unit cog exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Borthor, spy, male, age 20, x 242, y 126
traits NaturalSpySkill 1 , GoodSpy 1
character_record Calaerwen, female, age 56, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lothien, female, age 15, alive, never_a_leader
relative Ecthelion, Calaerwen, Denethor, Mistion, Lothien, end

Here I have made an example to explain characters to you:
Red: This is his name, i recommend that you dont change it
Blue: This detirmines whether he is a captain, general or family member. He is currently a family member, which he must be to be leader.
Green: This detirmines if he is male or female, he must be male to be a character.
Yellow: This is his faction standing. He is currently the faction leader.
Dark Red: This is his age, it can be changed without harming anything else.
Brown: Now this is the most important part, this detirmines where he is placed on the map, you need to change this for every character.
Because otherwise, after you gave the other settlments to the rebels, your generals will pop upp in rebel settlements, which will cause a crash.

Now you must start the game and start a new campaign as sicily. You must not save the file before starting, leave it open. Now ingame, open your console and type the exact, without the quotations: "toggle_fow".
Now the entire map will be revealed to you. Now put the cursor where you would like the new position of you general to be, open you console again and type: "show_cursorstat". It will show you the region name and the coordinates, write them down somewhere. Exit the game.

Go back into your opened descr_strat file and go down the your general. Replace the numbers marked in brown with the new numbers you recently wrote down.
You must repeat this process for every character of every faction. Do not remove any existing generals because then you need to edit the family tree aswell.

Pink: These are his traits and ancillaries.

Light blue: This is the army he has with him.

character Ecthelion, named character, male, leader, age 68, x 239, y 128, portrait Ecthelion, hero_ability The_Heart_of_the_Lion ;anorien
traits Ecthelion 1 , Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , ChivalryLegacy 1
ancillaries steward_gondor, drillmaster
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fountain Guard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0



I hope this tutorial helps you. Because it took a damn long time to write

[Stephan]

acctually theres a much simplier way:

geomod tool

[Dea Paladin]

Oh wtf, my way is the good old true modders way!

[axnsan]

+geomod s up the descr_strat from my experience

[Dea Paladin]

Good, so there is another reason why the good old way is best.

[A1_Unit]

Dea, you can put a CODE tag around all that to make it like it is in descr_strat.

[axnsan]

or the [noparse][/noparse] tags.

[Hartassen]

From this thread I tried doing this in vanilla, well with "LTC GOLD" for russia to have kiev aswell, all works fine I sent faction leader to kiev and added some buildings that the wooden wall can host. Problem is now russia just sits with like 2 stacks in it's territories and attacks no one. I tried going 100 years and still they took no other settlements. Is something wrong or do you need to have bordering settlements or else the ai gets totally ed up in the head?

Edit: i tried playing russia myself and when i moved my faction leader out of kiev he could only move one turn, you know the red markings around the city like it doesn't belong to me. "cannot move through enemy zone of control"

I added the city to the russians and removed it from slave faction, what else could be wrong?

[Hartassen]

Anyone? I wouldn't be asking here but the LTC mod has been dead for ages no one ever uses that part of the forum anymore.

[A1_Unit]

There is an enemy army in still in the settlement. Take it out in descr_strat.

[Hartassen]

There is an enemy army in still in the settlement. Take it out in descr_strat.

Ahhh thanks a lot =)

[Taroc]

Thanks Dea Paladin for the hr the tutorial but unfortunatley it did me no good. I tried numerous times and I've had no luck. Thanks though.

[Hartassen]

Thanks Dea Paladin for the hr the tutorial but unfortunatley it did me no good. I tried numerous times and I've had no luck. Thanks though.

Maybe if you explained what kind of problems you encountered? Most likely you just forgot to remove something that was colliding.
Best thing to do would be to do each faction in phases, do gondor, check to see it all works. Do mordor, check to see it all works. Etc. That way you can isolate the problem along the way.

[A1_Unit]

The biggest problems are usually putting an army on an invalid tile among other things...

[Dea Paladin]

Some places you cant put a general, if you do it will cause a crassh.

[A1_Unit]

Don't put him on a mountain, river or dense forest.

[axnsan]

Or sea for that matter