Historic characters ideas and progress

[Soul Firez]

Ok well i have been working on this idea as mentioned in the future ideas thread and i figured i would see if what i wanted to achieve was possible so here we go on a journey of modding basicly yes i have found it is completely possible!! the adding of a historic event and pic and the custom portrait will be easy when i find suitable pictures(most likey from the movie itself braveheart ) but here the basic idea in play william wallace as a general not family member and as a unit of highland nobles not heavy horse






at this point he currently has a bad in battle model for him but by adding data to the william walace model that is used for the king of scotland i can make a perfect wallace unit.

so basicly here if you support the idea come make a suggestion of the character from a faction include what his basic stats most likely should be genral or family a quick intro of him emerging and a pic viable for historic event and custom general pic so he looks like the general you want .. oh also when he would come into the game eg date certain event or condition etc to portray him somewhat authenticly

regards soul firez

Heroes listed to date
1 william wallace = scotland with strat map model
2 robin of locksley = england with strat map model
3 lleywnIII = wales
4 joan of arc = france with strat map model
5 vlad dracula = hungary with strat map model
6 alexios IV = byzantium with strat map model
7 moctezuma = aztecs with strat map model
8 el cid compeador = spain/castile with strat map model
9 gottfied(iron hand) = hre with start map model
10 skule bardsson = norway with strat map model
11khalid = turks
12 balian of ibelian = KoJ with strat map model
13alexander = russia with strat map model
14henry pious= poland with strat map model
15 hugh oneil = ireland
16 Francesco Sforza = milan with strat map model
17 erik of pomerania = denmark with strat map model
18 Traidenis = lithuania

[pwf224]

What other characters are you thinking of making?

[Soul Firez]

ok some further polishing to wallace to give you the idea where i am going






@pwf that is up to you guys if you support the idea and supply the ideas and pictures i have asked for then any relevant historical figure of significance can be added in what ever method portrays him /her best .. If no one bothers then it will be a scraped project or one i may do in spare time for my own enjoyment

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

EDIT strange my screenies come out without shadows i have shadows on full blast in my game

[Dave Scarface]

Have you been watching Braveheart lately by any chance? I'm not sure I like seeing Mel Gibsons face in the Grand Campaign Seriously though this is a fun idea and one which I support.

Dave

[Soul Firez]

Maybe once or twice i might have watched it i just thought many people feel very personal about there generals and i thought well why not make some that where historic( to a certain degree) and special in how they look act (no not giving them hero powers!!!!!!!!!!!!!) something that will spark an interest in there generals further ..( i know i like to think of a back story to my genrals in late game lol these already have one FREEDOM " cough splutter'" ahem where was i ...

So seriously think of major historical figures lets try to balance it out across the globe eg was there some crazy norwegian of the period who would make a good one off general thinking joan of arc of course but for her i will have to give her a dead wife or well she will marry under the AI control ( strangely not a bad idea though "cough splutter" hem where was i again LOL ok you get the idea now give me your ideas on this

[Frunk]

I really like having an actual face there, and Wallace looks awesome on the map! It's just a weird that he's in blue and the other's are in red - to distinguish himself I suppose.

I'm looking through this list on Wikipedia right now, but since I don't recognise half the names, it might be good if someone else has a glance too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rs#Middle_Ages

[Frunk]

Sorry for double post, but I found what might be some good ones for Byzantium:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexios_Strategopoulos - retook Constantinople from the Latin Empire in 1261. Self-explanatory - would be great if they DO lose Constantinople.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexios_Philanthropenos - had some famous victories against the Turks in Byzantine-Ottoman Wars, which of course the Byzantines lost - so if the Byzantines are down to say less than 5 provinces, he might be a good one too.

There don't seem to be any portraits of or... *ahem* ... actors dressed up as either of the above men - you may have to just use your imagination on that one. I'll keep looking for more Generals tomorrow.

[Soul Firez]

Hmm ok good idea i will try and find some info on him and pics he could be a go but i mean was he a great archer (so then be a general of an archer unit) these things i need but atleast a start

I started with wallace as all the materials where easy to get but with help we can make many many more ..

Oh wallace looks awesome in fights mate it good to see a general among the fray

[Frunk]

Very true - hadn't thought of that. Edited my last post.

[Grislok]

This idea is great. Montezuma for the Aztecs? Slightly before his time, but their recorded history of leaders is non-existent(silly Spanish book burners). Don't know about a picture but there have been two movies at least. I was thinking the great Moor fighter El Cid for Spain but he dates to late 1000s.

[Koljan]

From the wikipedia page provided, my favorite is:
Yusuf ibn Tashfin, Almoravid General,defeated King Alfonso VI of Castile and the combined armies of León, Aragón and Castile on October 23, 1086, at the Battle of Sagrajas,the Christian advance was halted for four generations in the Iberian Peninsula.

[Soul Firez]

ok well wallace is now complete his conditions are scotland is alive it is turn 60 or later and scotland is at war with england .. so if it is turn 60 and your at peace he wont spawn but if at any point after that you war with english this will happen ps his stats have been boosted a bit since earlier pics



Ok i guess now it is up to who will be next will be much faster now that i have written my base spawn script once and historic trigger as long as i can get relevant pics of said hero i can start to pump them out if i have those pics and an idea of there fighting style (eg a foot solider, horse archer, etc etc so i can make a valid and different general unit for them

Also it will help speed things greatly if you have pics or a site with pics of this general or a possible substitute for a pic of him /her as well that sight is well a bit bare on info other than dates and fought this battle etc ( it doesnt state what they where proficient in eg where they archers etc etc ) so i would basicly be making the whole thing up and that will take serious time perhaps we might start with movie themed heros of this age as atleast there is some refrences to them ( historical value maybe not as high ) as if i have to go from that sight info i have nothing to really base the work on

[Soul Firez]

an example of what would really speed the process up and will probably be my next target is this

Joan of arc 1412

heavy horse fought against english

bear in mind the pics can just be pics you think will represent this hero (even if there of another totallydifferent person or extra from a film show or armour display page )

posted ideas like this will give me somewhere to go and work with

[Koljan]

I shall tell you of William Wallace. Historians from England will say I am a liar, but history is written by those who have hanged heroes. The king of Scotland had died without a son, and the king of England, a cruel pagan known as Edward the Longshanks, claimed the throne of Scotland for himself. Scotland's nobles fought him, and fought each other, over the crown. So Longshanks invited them to talks of truce - no weapons, one page only. Among the farmers of that shire was Malcolm Wallace, a commoner with his own lands; he had two sons, John and William.

you tell your king that William Wallace will *not* be ruled... and nor will any Scot while I live.

Go back to England and tell them there that Scotland's daughters and her sons are yours no more. Tell them Scotland is free.

In the Year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland - starving and outnumbered - charged the fields of Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets; they fought like Scotsmen, and won their freedom.

some quotes from the movie, make a nicer description in that spirit

[Soul Firez]

LOL ok ill use one of those as the historic event for william wallace nice work easy to change and next up we have joan of arc

Sorry no women models but then when she fought she was dressed in male type armour i simple used merchant cav as her battle model but it still makes a different general model and her men though are NE bodygaurd giving you a slight varation

If you wish to write one for her ill change that as well oh of note i did give her secretly female attribute no real use but i thought a nice touch

do we have any takers and viable ideas for the next new general

Hmm might change her to a knight templar model so she really stands out from her men what you think

[Koljan]

from the movie:

[QUOTET]This morning God gave us a great victory, but it is nothing compared to what he is ready to give us now. I know you are all tired and hungry, but I swear to you that even if these English were hanging from the clouds by their fingertips we would pull them down before nightfall. Now let all those who love me... follow me! Follow me![/QUOTE]

[Koljan]

El Cid Compeador for Spain!

His campaign in Age Of Empires II back in the day was very enjoyable to my memory!
Epic story!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cid

[Grislok]

This idea so rocks....I will try to work on some of the more obscure factions. When I am not at work...LOL. Should be able to get a nice pic of Charlton Heston as El Cid.

[Soul Firez]

name the movie so i can look up the pics atleast and cheers on the quote ill change her event message to that also

oh and the slight change to joan

[Dave Scarface]

@Soul Firez,

If its alright with you I'd like to include this nice idea in KGCM patch 4.2? as I think its great for people who like to roleplay and stuff. Keep up the good work..