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    Default Is there any way to crush the papal state

    I capture Rome and there other city but the pope keeps on appearing i kill one they elect one,its so annoying.Is there any way to totaly destroy the papal state




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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Sadly, such a way does not exist.
    What you should do, is gift the Pope a far away city, enshrouded with enemies, instead, so they will be plagued with this illness, rather than yourself.
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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    I think you virtually kill him when not playing a catholic faction as following:
    kill every catholic faction, kill the pope.
    No new pope will be elected, and the Papal States will not be destroyed, only thing is, you can't see them anymore.
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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Above post is the only way. But taking Rome will make sure he never gets an army, and you can kill him at your leisure.

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    heres some of my strategy to deal with papal but doesnt mean that this is the way to crush him
    because HE IS A MUSHROOM!

    Step 1
    train lots of assassins
    Step 2
    increase their subterfuge by sabotaging settlements (including rome)
    Step 3
    train spies and infiltrate pope's capital
    Step 4
    get lots of assassins to sabotage the inn
    Step 5
    prevent the papal to train spies as they can be hindrance for your assassins to achieve their mission
    Step 6
    sabotage all of the papal's building and create chaos by putting the spies on stand by in rome
    Step 7
    when the people of rome rebel against the papal send your army to attack rome
    Step 8
    after getting the rome.... to get rid of the pope give him the Jerusalem (if uve succeed in crusading and occupy jerusalem)

    Result:
    papal's capital is jerusalem and rome is yours
    papal's gone raped by the egypt and mongols

    to prevent from being excommunicated - no problem the same steps but on faction you hated the most
    rofl (france)
    if the papal threats u with excommunication...

    1. send spies and assassins to the faction u wanted to attack 3 per region is enough or 5

    2. infiltrate it using spiess to increase the posibility that ur assassin succeed

    3. use assassins to sabotage all the brothels and inn to prevent them to train spies which is yes pain in the butt to deal

    4. destroy all the buildings that improves public order and pple's happiness (cities = affected the most)

    5. after those cities have been rebelled againsts ur hated faction quickly send your army to that city and crush the rebels

    - this strategy takes a lot of time to do but its really worthy than waiting the excommunication threat to finish ^^

    btw if papal is destroyed by mongols and egypt crush him again using that strategy (funny but cruel rofl)

    i love to play with papal the most ahahhahha ( to increase the relation with papal dont give tribute instead choose attack faction = rebel) again and again lol its a bug...yes it is that way you can increase your relationship with the papal without spending a dime lol

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    2. sabotage first

    3. if the assassin reached the grand conspirator trait no need to sabotage anymore just pawn any characters you like to increase its asssassination traits like hired blades

    4. if your assassin failed his mission... get a stronger assassin to kill the target or else that target will gain lots of traits againsts assianation ex. (improve security traits)

    if ya need me strategies jst pm me i can give ya a tip and advice
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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Quote Originally Posted by WikerusTheTyrant View Post
    Rules:
    1. never ever ever ever ever assissanate a character if its below 35%
    Not sure where this rule comes from. I saved myself a mountain of grief by assassinating the Timurid faction leader with only a 10% chance. The faction was destroyed and I was able to regain Constantinople, which had been fortified with elephants. Assassinations succeed very often at lower chances. The only caution is don't take a chance if getting caught is going to cause a war you don't want.

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Well, you can kill/assassinate the College of Cardinals. Eventually, a new cardinal is promoted, but you won't hear from the arse for a nice amount of time.
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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    It is also sometimes good to keep the Pope without a settlement at all. This way you can easily kill him on the battlefield if you don't like his lip, which is far easier than killing him through assassins. It's also an easy way to train your troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    It is also sometimes good to keep the Pope without a settlement at all. This way you can easily kill him on the battlefield if you don't like his lip, which is far easier than killing him through assassins. It's also an easy way to train your troops.
    I once had the Pope living on his only remaining ship, I swear. But he eventually landed somewhere down around Marseille and stayed there for the rest of the game. I don't remember if I tried offing him at that point, but I would've sunk his boat for fun if I'd known he was on board.

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Is there any way to find the papal states? They lost Rome and now they lost Antioch and I can't find their last settlement!

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Use the toggle_fow cheat I guess?
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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    I have toggle_fow on but I still cant find them on the world map

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    lol i love having two units (heavy cavalry and good spearmen) and forcing the pope near the Rome coast (so no hard charges up hill) and then just charging him, and occasionally gaining a new family member.

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Quote Originally Posted by JanD View Post
    I have toggle_fow on but I still cant find them on the world map
    They may be in a boat that has happened to me before but if not just scour the map for the Pope

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    There is no real way to actally "crush" the Papal states. Just take their cities, and try to kill the pope whenever there is a new on(I doubt a pope wil;l be elected from your faction)

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    Yeah, but don't you start to feel bad about killing the poper over and over? I agree with advice above that the best thing to do is give him one of the islands or some buffer province and let him stew somewhere on his own.

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    Default Re: Is there any way to crush the papal state

    If you have a Muslim faction, and took Rome, and made it capital, the new popes that continue to reappear on the hills near Rome are a nice chance for the young family members coming on age and appearing in Rome for an easy battle to earn their first command stars.

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