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    Default UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...worst-families


    THOUSANDS of the worst families in England are to be put in “sin bins” in a bid to change their bad behaviour, Ed Balls announced yesterday.


    The Children’s Secretary set out £400million plans to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes.

    They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.

    Private security guards will also be sent round to carry out home checks, while parents will be given help to combat drug and alcohol addiction.

    Around 2,000 families have gone through these Family Intervention Projects so far.

    But ministers want to target 20,000 more in the next two years, with each costing between £5,000 and £20,000 – a potential total bill of £400million.

    Ministers hope the move will reduce the number of youngsters who get drawn into crime because of their chaotic family lives, as portrayed in Channel 4 comedy drama Shameless.

    Sin bin projects operate in half of council areas already but Mr Balls wants every local authority to fund them.

    He said: “This is pretty tough and non-negotiable support for families to get to the root of the problem. There should be Family Intervention Projects in every local authority area because every area has families that need support.”

    But Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: “This is all much too little, much too late.

    “This Government has been in power for more than a decade during which time anti-social behaviour, family breakdown and problems like alcohol abuse and truancy have just got worse and worse.”


    Mr Balls also said responsible parents who make sure their children behave in school will get new rights to complain about those who allow their children to disrupt lessons.

    Pupils and their families will have to sign behaviour contracts known as Home School Agreements before the start of every year, which will set out parents’ duties to ensure children behave and do their homework.

    The updated Youth Crime Action Plan also called for a crackdown on violent girl gangs as well as drug and alcohol abuse among young women.

    But a decision to give ministers new powers to intervene with failing local authority Youth Offending Teams was criticised by council leaders.

    Les Lawrence, of the Local Government Association, said they did “crucial” work and such intervention was “completely unnecessary”.


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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Anyone watch the movie or read the book 1984?


    Though parents are INCREDIBLY stupid, pacified, and pathetic these days.
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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    Anyone watch the movie or read the book 1984?


    Though parents are INCREDIBLY stupid, pacified, and pathetic these days.
    i remeber making a certain thread a year or so ago titled on exactly that
    before that ive made many references to it as have others.
    Its been goin this way a long long time here and its only accelerating.
    Massive centralised database with all our information down to our fav colour, they want all of us to be on DNA databse, we already have talking cameras as well as the normal ones..

    have a look at some of these posters as well

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    add to that, thousands of civllians working in public places being trained by the mod to spy on us more.



    what you guys think this is something new?
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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    WTF? CCTV in their own houses? Private property, rights of privacy, anyone? Is the article the usual sensationalism garbage from tabloids or it's reliabe? If it is that's totally wrong, i agree that there are horrible parents out there, but this "solution" is crazy.
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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Quote Originally Posted by antares24 View Post
    WTF? CCTV in their own houses? Private property, rights of privacy, anyone? Is the article the usual sensationalism garbage from tabloids or it's reliabe? If it is that's totally wrong, i agree that there are horrible parents out there, but this "solution" is crazy.
    Gov white paper on 'family intervention'

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
    damn so it's true, well one can't make up these sort of things.....mmm most constitutional courts on the continent would block a law like this as a violation of individual liberties, i wonder if the EU will say something about this...
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    I can't wait for this show...
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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    why am i not suprised by this at all?
    wont be long till we all have cameras in our houses in this country.
    For 'our saftey' of course...

    if they even try to put a camera in my house, or even in my street, i will smash the bloody things, i swear.

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    It's kind of freaky, and obviously can lead to an Orwellian 1984 situation. But I am drawn to the idea of actual incentive to make families work...I suppose if it does what it tries to do, it's fine. But having a tv show? No. Andyou must be very careful not to push too hard...
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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    GB still has a Monarch, why so surprised?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    GB still has a Monarch, why so surprised?
    and what does that have to do with anything.
    You know Monarchy doesn't equal tyrrany


    anyway, this is a bit disturbing. Perhapos they should just take the children of said families away if their conditions are that bad.

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes
    I seriously doubt it.

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    Civil Liberties? Britain? This was hardly unexpected.

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    Just pathetic. Are these families payed for doing this volunterely? I guess not. You guys need the EU for saying no to this crap(lol).

    Yes the EU is the answer...(lol)
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    Just pathetic. Are these families payed for doing this volunterely? I guess not. You guys need the EU for saying no to this crap(lol).

    Yes the EU is the answer...(lol)
    the answer is to get rid of brown and his army of control freaks, not go running to the EU because we've got a total bunch of :wub:s in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
    the answer is to get rid of brown and his army of control freaks, not go running to the EU because we've got a total bunch of :wub:s in charge.
    Well I agree you shouldnt have to. This is downright imoral and one could ask who is "the problem" here, but I have doubts the Tories will change this, mainly because of this (like @Ter mentioned):
    "But Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: “This is all much too little, much too late".

    In my country Germany, its the conservatives coming with this kind(but not as bad) shite all the time, and I couldnt emagine the socail-dems here coming up with this. Maybe the problem has a diffrent root other then a partizan one in the UK...

    However, dont let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    However, dont let this happen.
    Just noticed,

    Around 2,000 families have gone through these Family Intervention Projects so far.

    It already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ter View Post
    Just noticed,

    Around 2,000 families have gone through these Family Intervention Projects so far.

    It already is.
    Thats just wrong. Just showes that if you let bad things happen to you it will only get whorse.
    Quote Originally Posted by snuggans View Post
    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    how about the secret/thought police?

    Private security guards will also be sent round to carry out home checks
    im totally at a loss what to do, or what to think, this country is going down the ing .
    Last edited by bigfootedfred; August 03, 2009 at 09:18 PM.

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    Default Re: UK to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes

    I remember a thread months ago saying that the Orwellian world was not possible, this proves that thread wrong

    But come on is this for real? If so it's a clear violation of individual rights and privacy, why don't just put them in jail if they're so problematic

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