Retraing Impossible !!!

[Kokito]

Hi guys!, I´m looking for some help about scripting "export_descr_buildings"

See, my problem is that ONLY in cities (no matter what size) I´m only able to train units but never RETRAIN them!, that made me think that editing the imperial palace should do the trick but I was mistaken, everything is just as it was, here take a look

construction  40 
            cost  18000 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                imperial_palace
            }
        }
        imperial_palace requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, slave, } and hidden_resource doesnotexist  
        {
            capability
            {
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { hun, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { nomad, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, }
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { hun, } and hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { hun, } and not hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and not hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, } and not hidden_resource celtic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, } and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "miloora_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slave, } and hidden_resource cornish
                recruit "aulue_3"  6  requires factions { sarmatians, goths, roxolani, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "aulue2_3"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "aulue3_3"  6  requires factions { vandals, ostrogoths, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "berf_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, goths, empire_east, empire_west_rebels, vandals, slavs, slave, empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "berf2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic                
            recruit "bonheddwyr_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "bonheddwyr2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "rherel2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, goths, slavs, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rherel3_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, berbers, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rherel_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau_3"  6  requires factions { romano_british, goths, empire_west_rebels, vandals, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau2_3"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slavs, sarmatians, ostrogoths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau3_3"  6  requires factions { berbers, empire_east, roxolani, empire_east_rebels, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "strathclyder_2"  6  requires factions { goths, }
                recruit "galwyddel ymill_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource galwyddel
                recruit "galwyddel noble_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource ynis_mon 
                recruit "rhyfelwyrmawr_2"  6  requires factions { slavs, } and hidden_resource rheged
                recruit "aeson llydaw_2"  6  requires factions { empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource letau
                recruit "gway_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource powys 
                recruit "berf mer_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource gwynedd 
                recruit "aumabellu_2"  6  requires factions { ostrogoths, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "pedytes ebrauc_2"  6 requires factions { roxolani, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "galwyddel berfelawyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "pecta berf_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "pecta rhyfelwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "rherelmanau_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource ynis_mon
                recruit "saeson aulue_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
             recruit "saethwrabhyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, } and hidden_resource celtic
            recruit "helwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "helwyr2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "saethwre_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "saethwre2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogot

It continues but nevermind...

But then I found a spot that could help,

}
            construction  32 
            cost  27000 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}
building defenses
{

Did I got it?, it seems that between these {} should be something but there´s nothing! any ideas??

[Killerbee]

Nope , that last bit won't help it That just says that that is the final building in the building tree , and you can't upgrade it . I'd first take a good look at the barracks And how do you know you can't retrain those units ? It's hardcoded i thought , so you can't change it . the only other possibility is the fact that you can't retrain the units that the city can't make Btw , are you using a mod ? And what's up with this thing :

and hidden_resource doesnotexist

[Kokito]

Mmmm I see what you mean my friend but it seems that this mod "Arthurian TW:BI" is a little tricky. See, Swabian (AT:Team Member) wanted a "No Barracks" policy in the game, therefore all the units will be available when you upgrade the town/city
Ah, yeah, I realised that I cannot retrain units because when I´ll need to do it in towns (no matter what size) it goes well but then in cities, I´m able to train units, but not retrain them!, it looks silly when you have a nice unit with some experience in combat and you can´t retrain...and you have to disband and make another one...
And I´m not sure that the problem lies in the fact that maybe the city cannot produce them because you CAN!...silly as it sounds

I tried to ask in the mod´s forum but it´s dead, nobody answers!

So now an amateur like me is completly lost, hehe what should I do!?
I have attached the file if you mate or someone would take a look. I´m deeply thankful for the help given anyway!

[Subrosa Florens]

and hidden_resource doesnotexist

I do not think anyone answered this so here goes.

That looks like something many mods do (my own included) to create special buildings that only the AI can have. What you do is create the building as normal, and add a hidden resource requirement to build it. Then you never put that hidden resource on the map, so it cannot be built. I call mine nowhere.

Then you give it to the AI either via a campaign script that runs when you start a campaign, or through a background script that kicks in when certain conditions are met.

Typically this is done to give the AI extra bonuses in money, etc... You can prevent the human player from receiving the bonuses by making the capability lines faction specific.

[Killerbee]

I do not think anyone answered this so here goes.

That looks like something many mods do (my own included) to create special buildings that only the AI can have. What you do is create the building as normal, and add a hidden resource requirement to build it. Then you never put that hidden resource on the map, so it cannot be built. I call mine nowhere.

Then you give it to the AI either via a campaign script that runs when you start a campaign, or through a background script that kicks in when certain conditions are met.

Typically this is done to give the AI extra bonuses in money, etc... You can prevent the human player from receiving the bonuses by making the capability lines faction specific.

In MTW2 , this is replaced by event counters , right ? Although they pretty much do them

And thx for the tip .

If the city recruitment bldg has no recruitment lines then of course you will not be able to retrain units that were recruited in the level before (or from another settlement). Watch out for cloned units too, they may not be retrainable as they are not the same unit (though they look similar in-game).

It seems this is the case ..

[Squid]

Show screens because what you're describing is impossible for non-mercenary units. If you can train a unit in a city, you can retrain the same unit in the same city. Mercenary units that are only available through the mercenary recruitment pool cannot be retrained, but they are the exception.

[Kylan271]

I have ATW and will look myself when I have a chance-not installed yet as running another game just now. Swabian is around still and maybe also pm him to see??? I am not sure at forum details,hmm will check(doing TE gold mod so missed it sorry)?

Squid the ATW system seems complex,but I will look at and use 'add_population' + 'process_cq' + 'add_money' cheats to build a city and see what happens? But,you are right,by normal rules if recruitable=retrainable.

Kokito which faction are you using????? I will look at and reply in both ATW and here for when when I have answer????

[Kokito]

Well yeah...I know it sounds impossible, but it´s what is happening, here take a look at this:

building core_building    
{
    levels governors_house governors_villa governors_palace proconsuls_palace imperial_palace 
    {
        governors_house requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, slave, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { hun, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { nomad, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, }  
                population_growth_bonus bonus 2
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { hun, } and hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -10 requires factions { hun, } and not hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -10 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and not hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, } and not hidden_resource celtic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, } and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "berf"  4  requires factions { berbers, goths, empire_east, empire_west_rebels, vandals, slavs, slave, empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "berf2"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic                
            recruit "bonheddwyr"  4  requires factions { berbers, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "bonheddwyr2"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "strathclyder"  4  requires factions { goths, }
                recruit "galwyddel ymill"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource galwyddel
                recruit "gway"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource powys 
                recruit "berf mer"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource gwynedd 
                recruit "galwyddel berfelawyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "pecta berf"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "pecta rhyfelwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "saeson aulue"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
             recruit "saethwrabhyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, } and hidden_resource celtic
            recruit "helwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "helwyr2"  4  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "saethwre"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "saethwre2"  4  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic  
                recruit "fiagania alba"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource celtic  
            recruit "rhyfelwyr2"  4  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rhyfelwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "galwyddel saethwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, vandals, slavs, slave, sarmatians, goths, ostrogoths, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "pecta saethwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "saeson fwn"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
            recruit "saeson bonheddwyr"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "ardu"  4  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ardu2"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, roxolani, romano_british, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel aulue"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel ardu"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ceirrana"  4  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "marca bran"  4  requires factions { slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource rheged
                recruit "marchogluoedd"  4  requires factions { slave, ostrogoths, sarmatians, berbers, empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marchogluoedd2"  4  requires factions { vandals, goths, slavs, huns, empire_east, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "marca"  4  requires factions { empire_west, vandals, ostrogoths, slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marca2"  4  requires factions { goths, sarmatians, romano_british, empire_east, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "marca llydaw"  4  requires factions { empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource letau 
                recruit "marca saethwyr"  4  requires factions { sarmatians, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marca gwynedd"  4  requires factions { vandals, slave, } and hidden_resource gwynedd  
              recruit "fianadi crodda"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource croddasource
            recruit "cliarthairi crodda"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource croddasource
            recruit "sleamorceitherne"  4  requires factions { celts,sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic     
                recruit "sleanaghta"  4  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "gaemornaghta"  4  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "cruithne gaemor"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "cruithne tua"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "fiagania alba"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "fiagania"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "maiobhanaghta"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "ranasiarda"  4  requires factions { lombardi, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "cruithne saigdea"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish 
            recruit "sassanacht clairthairi"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, huns, } and hidden_resource germanic   
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sleaceitherne"  4  requires factions { sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "scioceitherne"  4  requires factions { sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "gaemor alba"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
            recruit "guirran"  4  requires factions { celts, berbers, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
            recruit "ceirrana"  4  requires factions { celts, berbers, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "rarigaguirran"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource lairar
                recruit "fibb gairmor"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "fibb chodaoer"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource fibbish
            recruit "sleamorceitherne"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "schiltron"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "northern warriors"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource cait 
                recruit "chodaoer"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "saethwre2"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic  
                recruit "fiagania"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "huntsmen"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "saiogdaoer"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "sassanacht maiobh"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
            recruit "sassanacht clairthairi"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic   
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sassanacht maiobh"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sleaceitherne"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "scioceitherne"  4  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "gairlom"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "dim"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "berf"  4  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marchan"  4  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "marchogluoedd2"  4  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic   
                recruit "deira foederati"  4  requires factions { alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource ebrauc
                recruit "hirth"  4  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource heorth 
                recruit "scipflotan"  4  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "geoguthas"  4  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic  
                recruit "bogwealhas"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "irish bogas"  4  requires factions { slave, franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "pictish bogas"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "irish longspear"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "pictish werod"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "pictish axemen"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "wealhas werod"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
            recruit "horsmen"  4  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "francisca heerban"  4  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "miles"  4  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "frankish bearded axes"  4  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "comitatenses"  4  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "hundradeflocc"  4  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "ceorlas"  4  requires factions { slave, }
            }

No barracks! , and so goes like that down till you contruct the last building, I mean the "imperial palace"

construction  32 
            cost  9000 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                proconsuls_palace
            }
        }
        proconsuls_palace requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, slave, } and hidden_resource stronger_romanisation
      {
            capability
            {
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { hun, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { nomad, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, }
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { hun, } and hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -7 requires factions { hun, } and not hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -7 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and not hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, } and not hidden_resource celtic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, } and not hidden_resource gaelic
                population_growth_bonus bonus 2
            recruit "miloora_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slave, } and hidden_resource cornish
                recruit "aulue_3"  6  requires factions { sarmatians, goths, roxolani, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "aulue2_3"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "aulue3_3"  6  requires factions { vandals, ostrogoths, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "berf_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, goths, empire_east, empire_west_rebels, vandals, slavs, slave, empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "berf2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, ostrogoths, roxolani, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic                
            recruit "bonheddwyr_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "bonheddwyr2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "rherel2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, goths, slavs, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rherel3_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, berbers, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rherel_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau_3"  6  requires factions { romano_british, goths, empire_west_rebels, vandals, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau2_3"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slavs, sarmatians, ostrogoths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "campwyrau3_3"  6  requires factions { berbers, empire_east, roxolani, empire_east_rebels, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "strathclyder_2"  6  requires factions { goths, }
                recruit "galwyddel ymill_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource galwyddel
                recruit "galwyddel noble_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource ynis_mon 
                recruit "rhyfelwyrmawr_2"  6  requires factions { slavs, } and hidden_resource rheged
                recruit "aeson llydaw_2"  6  requires factions { empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource letau
                recruit "gway_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource powys 
                recruit "berf mer_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource gwynedd 
                recruit "aumabellu_2"  6  requires factions { ostrogoths, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "pedytes ebrauc_2"  6 requires factions { roxolani, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "galwyddel berfelawyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "pecta berf_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "pecta rhyfelwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "rherelmanau_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource ynis_mon
                recruit "saeson aulue_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
             recruit "saethwrabhyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, } and hidden_resource celtic
            recruit "helwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "helwyr2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "saethwre_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "saethwre2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic  
                recruit "fiagania alba_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource celtic  
            recruit "rhyfelwyr2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "rhyfelwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "arwrweision_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "arwrweision2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slavs, berbers, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "galwyddel saethwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east, empire_east_rebels, romano_british, vandals, slavs, slave, sarmatians, goths, ostrogoths, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "pecta saethwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "saeson fwn_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
            recruit "saeson bonheddwyr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, berbers, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "ardu_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ardu2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, roxolani, romano_british, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel aulue_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel ardu_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ceirrana_2"  6  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "marchomawr_2"  6  requires factions { empire_east, empire_east_rebels, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "marchomawr2_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slavs, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marchomawr3_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, vandals, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "marca dumonyna_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, slave, } and hidden_resource cornish 
            recruit "marca contwn2_2"  6  requires factions { slavs, slave, empire_west_rebels, vandals, goths, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "marca contwn3_2"  6  requires factions { ostrogoths, empire_west, empire_east_rebels, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "marca bran_2"  6  requires factions { slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource rheged
                recruit "marchogluoedd_2"  6  requires factions { slave, ostrogoths, sarmatians, berbers, empire_west, empire_west_rebels, empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marchogluoedd2_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, goths, slavs, huns, empire_east, romano_british, roxolani, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "marca_2"  6  requires factions { empire_west, vandals, ostrogoths, slavs, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marca2_2"  6  requires factions { goths, sarmatians, romano_british, empire_east, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "marca llydaw_2"  6  requires factions { empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource letau 
                recruit "marca saethwyr_2"  6  requires factions { sarmatians, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marca gwynedd_2"  6  requires factions { vandals, slave, } and hidden_resource gwynedd  
                recruit "roman ballistae"  6  requires factions { nomad, }
                recruit "roman scorpion"  6  requires factions { nomad, }
              recruit "fianadi crodda"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource croddasource
            recruit "cliarthairi crodda"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource croddasource
            recruit "sleamorceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { celts,sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic     
                recruit "sleanaghta_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "tuanaghta_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "gaemornaghta_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "curadha1_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "claiomhnaghta_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "laigini_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource lairar 
                recruit "fennacuradha_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource connaght 
                recruit "deaisbard"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "orddmhornaghta_2"  6  requires factions { sassanids, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "audheran_2"  6  requires factions { lombardi, } and hidden_resource dal_riada
                recruit "dinuadda claiomhnaghta_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, lombardi, sassanids, celts, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic  
                recruit "cruithne gaemor_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "cruithne tua_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "fiagania alba_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "fiagania_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "maiobhanaghta_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "ranasiarda_2"  6  requires factions { lombardi, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "cruithne saigdea_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource pictish 
            recruit "sassanacht clairthairi_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, huns, } and hidden_resource germanic   
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sleaceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "scioceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "gaemor alba_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "guirranmor"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, burgundii, lombardi, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "cubrieachor_2"  6  requires factions { celts, } and hidden_resource ui_neill
            recruit "guirran_2"  6  requires factions { celts, berbers, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
            recruit "ceirrana_2"  6  requires factions { celts, berbers, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "carpata_2"  6  requires factions { celts, lombardi, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "rarigaguirran_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource lairar
                recruit "fennaguirran_2"  6  requires factions { burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource connaght
                recruit "tuaguirran_2"  6  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "fibb gairmor_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "fibb chodaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "ludocingatae_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
            recruit "sleamorceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "schiltron_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "ludodaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish  
                recruit "northern warriors_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource cait 
                recruit "chodaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "ludodaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish and not hidden_resource fibbish  
                recruit "fibb ludodaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource fibbish
                recruit "gai aurmahr"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "saethwre2_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource celtic and not hidden_resource galwyddel and not hidden_resource gaelic  
                recruit "fiagania_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "huntsmen_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "saiogdaoer_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "sassanacht maiobh_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
            recruit "sassanacht clairthairi_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic   
                recruit "sassanacht fianadi_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sassanacht maiobh_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource germanic 
                recruit "sleaceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "scioceitherne_2"  6  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "gairlom_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "dim"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "berf_2"  6  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "marchogluoedd2_2"  6  requires factions { huns, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
                recruit "mormaers2"  6  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "marchan tho_2"  6  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "deira foederati_2"  6  requires factions { alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource ebrauc
            recruit "duguthas_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "hirth_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource heorth 
                recruit "marchmen_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource heorth  
                recruit "scipflotan_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
            recruit "uthere_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
                recruit "gebures_2"  6  requires factions { slave, alemanni, franks, saxons, } and hidden_resource germanic  
                recruit "deira foederati_2"  6  requires factions { roxolani, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource ebrauc  
                recruit "geoguthas_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic  
                recruit "frameamen_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic
            recruit "angonas1"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, }  
            recruit "angonas2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, }    
            recruit "angonas3"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } 
                recruit "gesithas2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, }
                recruit "bogwealhas_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic  
                recruit "irish bogas_2"  6  requires factions { slave, franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "pictish bogas_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish 
                recruit "irish longspear_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic 
                recruit "pictish werod_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "pictish axemen_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "wealhas werod_2"  6  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic 
            recruit "horsmen_2"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, } and hidden_resource germanic 
            recruit "cnithas"  6  requires factions { saxons, franks, alemanni, slave, }
                recruit "eoten_cnithas2"  6  requires factions { franks, slave, } and hidden_resource heorth
                recruit "francisca heerban"  6  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "miles"  6  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "frankish bearded axes"  6  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "comitatenses"  6  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "hundradeflocc"  6  requires factions { slave, }
                recruit "ceorlas"  6  requires factions { slave, }
            }
            construction  40 
            cost  18000 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                imperial_palace
            }
        }
        imperial_palace requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, slave, } and hidden_resource doesnotexist  
        {
            capability
            {
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { hun, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { nomad, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, }
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { hun, } and hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { hun, } and not hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and not hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, } and not hidden_resource celtic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, } and not hidden_resource gaelic
            }
            construction  32 
            cost  27000 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }

As you see, in every building as well as the agents and this population stuff, you find units..but not in the last one, this is the only thing that looks to me strange.
Then after all that comes the other sorts of buildings like defensive, religious, etc...

I doens´t matter what faction I use, with all of them I had problems in cities, never in towns...and I´ve got the Gold Edition.

I agree, the ATW system is very complex!

[Kokito]

I´m PMing Swabian right now, see what he says!

[Kokito]

OK, I´ll post my new (perhaps???) discoverie:

I´ve tried to take an unit that is only available in the last main building, imperial palace of course, and taking them to the lesser governor buildings and the same things happens only with this unit, I can create it but not retrain allow despite I can do it with the other ones...this is getting me crazy! . So it is behaving like ALL the units in cities...interesting, to say the least.

What could it be then?, is there another file that intervenes here?, I have check this hidden_resourses but I don´t think that the problems lies there...

If this is impossible for non-mercenarie units.....what is happening?

[MasterOfNone]

If the city recruitment bldg has no recruitment lines then of course you will not be able to retrain units that were recruited in the level before (or from another settlement). Watch out for cloned units too, they may not be retrainable as they are not the same unit (though they look similar in-game).

[Kokito]

If the city recruitment bldg has no recruitment lines then of course you will not be able to retrain units that were recruited in the level before (or from another settlement). Watch out for cloned units too, they may not be retrainable as they are not the same unit (though they look similar in-game).

Forgive my ignorance but where is this "recruitment bldg"?

Looking for clone units. ATW uses sometimes clones because some factions have the same sort of unit and the only thing that changes is the model colours, etc.

[CaesarVincens]

See if it applies to this unit: "cliarthairi crodda" I noticed that many units do not appear in the first level and the last level. This unit does however. So, if that unit can be retrained, you have no problem. Well other than that the mod uses a bunch of clone units and confuses players apparently.

[Kokito]

See if it applies to this unit: "cliarthairi crodda" I noticed that many units do not appear in the first level and the last level. This unit does however. So, if that unit can be retrained, you have no problem. Well other than that the mod uses a bunch of clone units and confuses players apparently.

Well that unit specially is one of those that can only be train in certain areas...as for these nice clones are only intended to drive us insane!

[Kylan271]

Sorry delay Bro,had been sleepy from work..snorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre so didn't get chance to reply.

I have to work on another mod so can't install game and see all details,maybe weekend? But from text files,aghhh.

1. Buildings have set progressions per settlement,that is a settlement level required to build,ie Village-Town-Large Town-City-Large City-Huge City in this order(six settlement types,but 5 listed on game screen-town onwards). But ATW does not use this..several buildings are repreated in settlement upgrades,which is very wierd and sort of screws the system,ie here is the correct list:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

; levels settlement_min
; governors_house =village
; governors_villa =town
; governors_palace =largeTown
; proconsuls_palace =city (ATW =large town!!!)
; imperial_palace =largeCity (ATW =city!!!)

Check notepad--->Edit--->Find(settlement_min)and see progression,as other buildings bugged also like this.

Change file

proconsuls_palace

construction 40
cost 18000
settlement_min city ;large_town
upgrades
{
imperial_palace}

Imperial_palace

construction 32
cost 27000
settlement_min large_city ;city
upgrades

2. His Imperial Palace has Nooooooooooo Units recruitable so you can't do anything when you have it! And I think it is disabled going by 'doesnot exist' condition???? Wierd stuff here.

I will add the units and change building format for you and remove the condition listed to see what gives??? I do not like the system here,should have buildings for recruitment like in BI&RTW vanilla. And perhaps names in English ie Pict Heavy Spear,with cultural names in UI descriptions better. wait for my text file for you OK.

[Kokito]

Hey no problem Kylan!, you are being very helpful!! and for that I thank you mate.

Well, It was a nice try, but it didn´t work, I still get the same problem, no change as far as I can tell, I´m beginning to think that the problems lies in some other part.
Not only the ATW forum is dead, but also I´m the only one with this problem...or nobody tells either way I got no answer yet from ATW team members.

I´ll try sort taking some files from the installation and replaced them, see what we get (again)

OK I´ll post here also mate, cheers!

[Kylan271]

Hmmm,problem is his hidden resource and building level irregularities,it makes things difficult to shift through. If I have a chance I will try to rewite the system as a normal BI&RTW recruit system as optional to the game,the Raven Feeders is only other avenue if Swabian and others away???

As for clones,hmmmm is George Lucas aware??? Heh. Not sure clone system...have to look at files better. Sorry it very difficult and complex system in place at ATW,the thought is 'cluttered'. I know your post in ATW about this,but will update both when have a chance to resolve this issue????

[Kokito]

Hmmm,problem is his hidden resource and building level irregularities,it makes things difficult to shift through. If I have a chance I will try to rewite the system as a normal BI&RTW recruit system as optional to the game,the Raven Feeders is only other avenue if Swabian and others away???

As for clones,hmmmm is George Lucas aware??? Heh. Not sure clone system...have to look at files better. Sorry it very difficult and complex system in place at ATW,the thought is 'cluttered'. I know your post in ATW about this,but will update both when have a chance to resolve this issue????

Hahaha!I´m sure if George Lucas knew...he would send imperial troops and this guys with shields and swords won´t stand a chance!

Anyway, take a look at this:

hidden_resources rome britain bosphoran berber slav sughdian doesnotexist celtic gaelic germanic pictish connaght dal_riada ui_neill ynis_mon rheged gwynedd cornish galwyddel letau ebrauc croddasource ebermumu fibbish lairar heorth powys cait jutish saxon anglian

building core_building    
{
    levels governors_house governors_villa governors_palace proconsuls_palace imperial_palace 
    {
        governors_house requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, slave, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                recruit "ardu"  4  requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "ardu2"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_east_rebels, roxolani, romano_british, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource celtic
                recruit "sleaceitherne"  4  requires factions { sassanids, berbers, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, huns, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel aulue"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "irish werod"  4  requires factions { slave, franks, alemanni, saxons, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "scioceitherne"  4  requires factions { sassanids, berbers, huns, burgundii, lombardi, slave, celts, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "galwyddel ardu"  4  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, goths, ostrogoths, romano_british, slavs, slave, empire_east_rebels, vandals, sarmatians, empire_east, roxolani,} and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "irish levies"  4  requires factions { franks, alemanni, saxons, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ceirrana"  4  requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, slave, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "ceirrana"  4  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource gaelic
                recruit "gairlom"  4  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                recruit "dim"  4  requires factions { hun, slave, } and hidden_resource pictish
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { barbarian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { carthaginian, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { eastern, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { hun, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { nomad, } 
                agent diplomat  0  requires factions { roman, }  
        population_growth_bonus bonus 4
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 6 requires factions { hun, } and hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -6 requires factions { hun, } and not hidden_resource pictish
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -8 requires factions { franks, saxons, alemanni, } and not hidden_resource germanic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { empire_west_rebels, empire_east, slavs, vandals, ostrogoths, sarmatians, } and not hidden_resource celtic
        population_loyalty_bonus bonus -4 requires factions { celts, sassanids, lombardi, burgundii, } and not hidden_resource gaelic
            }
            construction  4 
            cost  800 
            settlement_min village
            upgrades
            {
                governors_villa
            }

This is the first Raven Feeders patch, I took export_descr_buildings from there I was looking at it and of course you find normal building trees like in vanilla but still those hidden_resourse all over the file...here I attached the whole file.

I´m thinking that if with the old raven feeders there was no problem maybe be can import something from there...? perhaps is the new map that screw everything up...?

Ahh, don´t bother mate, in the ATW forum I post to see if some nice soul would share with all of us if it´s my sole problem or what, anyway I check always both!

Hey no worries for my post in the other forum, my comments there are intended to wake people up . I know things get weird when modding but if you made a mod and you keep coming up with new patches that is great, but they must know that RESPONSABILITY comes with the package. (Did It sounded like my grandpa? heh)

We´ll see what´s next! thanks for the reply and support

[Kylan271]

I understand about bumping the threads there in ATW. As for Raven Feeders,my idea was contact them to know what gives as they have better grasp of the system. There is also another group,gee can't recall name though involved with modelling ATW system. The hassle I find is I don't know what exactlly they have hidden resources for???? Like 'resource does not exist' thing,like huh??? I understand AORs..regions of recruitment,but hmmm this system I can't fathom..a real complex puzzle. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr(I feel like "Animal' on the Muppets heh). I will get a caffine fix and look at the files again. I think I may need them 3d Glasses heh....

[Kokito]

I understand about bumping the threads there in ATW. As for Raven Feeders,my idea was contact them to know what gives as they have better grasp of the system. There is also another group,gee can't recall name though involved with modelling ATW system. The hassle I find is I don't know what exactlly they have hidden resources for???? Like 'resource does not exist' thing,like huh??? I understand AORs..regions of recruitment,but hmmm this system I can't fathom..a real complex puzzle. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr(I feel like "Animal' on the Muppets heh). I will get a caffine fix and look at the files again. I think I may need them 3d Glasses heh....

Hahha! gooo Johnny Go!. it will help if you get those night-vision glasses!, haha.

Thank you Kylan, I cannot recall what was their name either...but anyway, I have tried some things to see (is it possible!?) where the problems lie, but as you said this is extremely complex!!! so much hidden_resourse that I feel I need to hide something in my own house just in case...anyway I created a separate unit from another, the matrix was avaliable in low-level buildings and it turn out that I can retrain it...except in cities..but then I did the same with a high-level unit only recluitable in cities and It got what I was suspecting...no recruitment EVEN in towns...

Mmmmm, don´t know...see what lies ahead!