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    Default Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8180806.stm

    What's next? Parents suing their first graders' schools because their kid didn't turn out to be the next Einstein? (you see, everyone in the street said that their kid was real smart so it had to be true, right?) WRONG.

    C'mon people there has got to be something called private+personal responsibility. All the good will of the people around you can't do nothing unless you try yourself and the even the greatest and most prestigious degrees in the world can't help in a bad economy where companies just can't hire people. The government (any government) would and should try to do their best to alleviate the situation, but even the government can only do so much.

    "They have not tried hard enough to help me," she wrote about the college in her lawsuit.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it didn't "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    In a world of limited/finite resources there will be a limited/finite number of jobs. We agree on personal responsibility.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    What the hell did she expect them to to do. She has to get her lazy ass out and find a job herself. We agree to perseonal responsibility.

    And what's with the american "I'll sue you for anything" mentality?

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post

    And what's with the american "I'll sue you for anything" mentality?
    The democrats are completely in the pocket of the lawyers who do this, its going to be a LONG time before there are meaningful reforms.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    The democrats are completely in the pocket of the lawyers who do this, its going to be a LONG time before there are meaningful reforms.
    (Yawn)

    I hear of at least one student every semester who threatens the chair w a lawsuit because they couldn't earn their C to matriculate. I've been similarly threatened myself, but the student was a complete idiot whose parents couldn't imagine their precious spawn as incapable of doing 5th grade math...let alone graduating and becoming a 5th grade teacher. I've also been threatened with blackmail for imaginary sexual harrassment, in exchange for a passing grade...too bad for her that a fellow TA was in the room collecting specimens and witnessed the entire argument. My dept chair was nonplused: "you've taught now for 2 years, and this is the first time? You're lucky it hasn't happened sooner!"

    Today's students have an overwhelming sense of entitlement. Poor performance is NEVER their fault, they seem to think that simply sitting in class is enough to earn a passing grade. Some students even repeat a class 4-5 times (serious!) and, at the end of each unsuccessful semester, level the same ridiculous charges against their instructor.

    One effect of this, is some newer professors compromise their expectations in order to receive good student reviews (better chance at tenure, fewer "incidents"). If you want easy A's, go with newbies, if you want to actually learn something and be pushed to excell, take your courses with old-timers.

    THAT rant had been waiting for quite some time!

    What company in their right mind would hire such a litigious person, anyway? Will she now sue her lawyer for similarly torpedoing her future?
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by chamaeleo View Post
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Because if you can sue McDonalds, you can sue your college.

    Really this is why Obama is president; people who can't do nything for themselves and want everyone else to things for them. The rich are like that, but at least they made they're own money.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry X View Post
    Because if you can sue McDonalds, you can sue your college.

    Really this is why Obama is president; people who can't do nything for themselves and want everyone else to things for them. The rich are like that, but at least they made they're own money.
    A reasonable percent of the time, that's bull. A lot of the wealthy inherit money, or gain it from family, or end up getting fast-tracked through an expensive education into a cushy job where they can make a lot of money by doing not much.

    A few people manage to grub their way from the bottom to the top in this system, but by and large the poor stay poor because they don't have anything to start them off, even a vague academic, fiscal or cultural background can really give people a boost in life. In some ways it's that the system doesn't do enouch to encourage and allow aspiration, and that means social stagnation.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Well if she PAID to go and they didn't provide adequate service then fair enough.

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    It's a damn recession. A lot of graduates arn't going to get any work. You can't really blame a University because they gave her the education and the degree and she can't find a job.

    Ah well, it's in the US. I get the impression there's a decent amount of people over there that'll sue for anything.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Christ can people sue other people for ANYTHING in the United States? Bloody rediculous...not to mention she chose a dumb time to study information technology when there are billions of Indians who will work for a quarter of the price.

    Just because you complete a three year degree doesn't mean employers are going to bow down before you and offer you a job, you gotta work for what you want even after you get your degree. I completed a 3 year university degree with a distinction average and STILL only end up getting a job as a screw in the local prison. Im hoping by getting into the Public Sector via the back door i can move onto something higher up later on...

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    It isn't the point. If money was exchanged for a product or service it is not right that the person providing said product or service should be automatically exempt from and kind of action should they prove to be negligent.

    You all so far have been so biased that this lady is automatically in the wrong. What if she dropped 20k on an education only to find the professor was completely incompetent, or a myriad of other things.If I sell a PC and it breaks on the first day then the customer can ask for a refund, if a customer pays for a bacon sandwich and the bread is mouldy then they can ask for a return of their money.

    How about a bit of curiousity instead of outright bias?

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    It isn't the point. If money was exchanged for a product or service it is not right that the person providing said product or service should be automatically exempt from and kind of action should they prove to be negligent.

    You all so far have been so biased that this lady is automatically in the wrong. What if she dropped 20k on an education only to find the professor was completely incompetent, or a myriad of other things.If I sell a PC and it breaks on the first day then the customer can ask for a refund, if a customer pays for a bacon sandwich and the bread is mouldy then they can ask for a return of their money.

    How about a bit of curiousity instead of outright bias?
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    IMO alot of American universities have focused too much on the marketing and business side of getting students and not enough on the actual education. Not every friggin college needs to be some brick and ivy dreamland. She may not be able to sue the college justly but there is a valid gripe against education today.

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    It isn't the point. If money was exchanged for a product or service it is not right that the person providing said product or service should be automatically exempt from and kind of action should they prove to be negligent.

    You all so far have been so biased that this lady is automatically in the wrong. What if she dropped 20k on an education only to find the professor was completely incompetent, or a myriad of other things.If I sell a PC and it breaks on the first day then the customer can ask for a refund, if a customer pays for a bacon sandwich and the bread is mouldy then they can ask for a return of their money.

    How about a bit of curiousity instead of outright bias?
    I would say that this is more akin to eating a sandwich, finishing it, and then complainaing because you were still hungry.

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Talosh View Post
    I would say that this is more akin to eating a sandwich, finishing it, and then complainaing because you were still hungry.
    Analogy fail.

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    It isn't the point. If money was exchanged for a product or service it is not right that the person providing said product or service should be automatically exempt from and kind of action should they prove to be negligent.

    You all so far have been so biased that this lady is automatically in the wrong. What if she dropped 20k on an education only to find the professor was completely incompetent, or a myriad of other things.If I sell a PC and it breaks on the first day then the customer can ask for a refund, if a customer pays for a bacon sandwich and the bread is mouldy then they can ask for a return of their money.

    How about a bit of curiousity instead of outright bias?
    I met a man that had a masters in engineering managing a taco bell cause thats all there was. Across the street from my old work there was one doorman position open and 250 applied for it, 3/4 of them with college degrees. In this recession you get what you can get, if you cant get a job its not the colleges fault.

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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Right. So i want to sue Dunkin Doughnuts because i put one in a blender and then in my gas tank and guess what?! my car does not run on Dunkin, But "America runs on Dunkin" I was lied to and i want not just the 2.79 i paid for the doughnut, i also want cash for my clunker. ($4500 wont cut it)
    I would also like to sue my guidance counselor from High School, not the school, just him personally. I believe the 'jobless graduate' should also follow my lead since it is these agents of the collegiate scam who ask what you want to be and then stamp every one of their responses with "well you need to go to College to do that"
    The litigious society we have become all-to comfortable in is really sickening.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    It isn't the point. If money was exchanged for a product or service it is not right that the person providing said product or service should be automatically exempt from and kind of action should they prove to be negligent.

    You all so far have been so biased that this lady is automatically in the wrong. What if she dropped 20k on an education only to find the professor was completely incompetent, or a myriad of other things.If I sell a PC and it breaks on the first day then the customer can ask for a refund, if a customer pays for a bacon sandwich and the bread is mouldy then they can ask for a return of their money.

    How about a bit of curiousity instead of outright bias?
    She paid for an education, which she got. From the information we have, she isn't saying her education wasn't spot-on, but that they didn't get her a job.

    Well, the school never promised her a job, they can give her help - but aren't obliged to do so. She got what she paid for, can't give it back, and wants her money back too.
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    Default Re: Jobless graduate sues her college...because it "did not provide her with the leads and career advice it had promised."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    She paid for an education, which she got. From the information we have, she isn't saying her education wasn't spot-on, but that they didn't get her a job.

    Well, the school never promised her a job, they can give her help - but aren't obliged to do so. She got what she paid for, can't give it back, and wants her money back too.
    It could be that what she got was inadequate or not what was promised etc etc.

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