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    2 Obama officials: No guarantee taxes won't go up

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama's treasury secretary said Sunday he cannot rule out higher taxes to help tame an exploding budget deficit, and his chief economic adviser would not dismiss raising them on middle-class Americans as part of a health care overhaul.

    As the White House sought to balance campaign rhetoric with governing, officials appeared willing to extend unemployment benefits. With former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan saying he is "pretty sure we've already seen the bottom" of the recession, Obama aides sought to defend the economic stimulus and calm a jittery public.

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Larry Summers both sidestepped questions on Obama's intentions about taxes. Geithner said the White House was not ready to rule out a tax hike to lower the federal deficit; Summers said Obama's proposed health care overhaul needs funding from somewhere.

    "There is a lot that can happen over time," Summers said, adding that the administration believes "it is never a good idea to absolutely rule things out, no matter what."

    During his presidential campaign, Obama repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime." But the simple reality remains that his ambitious overhaul of how Americans receive health care -- promised without increasing the federal deficit -- must be paid for.

    "If we want an economy that's going to grow in the future, people have to understand we have to bring those deficits down. And it's going to be difficult, hard for us to do. And the path to that is through health care reform," Geithner said. "We're not at the point yet where we're going to make a judgment about what it's going to take."

    Selling that proposal, however, has proved tricky.

    On Friday, the government released a report that suggested the worst recession in the United States since World War II appears on the verge of ending. The economy dipped only slightly in the second quarter of this year -- falling at a 1 percent annual pace, better than expected.

    The president cautioned against instant turnaround, though.

    "Well, as I've said, I think we maybe are beginning to see the end of the recession, but it's still going to be some time before we are seeing companies hiring again. That's usually the last thing that happens," Obama said in an interview with Univision that aired on Sunday.

    "So I think we are still going to have a tough remainder of the year -- probably until next year -- but, you know, at least what we are seeing -- we've pulled back from the possibility of a depression. That's not the danger."

    Many analysts think the economy is starting to grow again in the current quarter, setting up a long-awaited recovery.

    "Most private forecasters -- and let's use their judgment -- suggest you're going to see unemployment start to come down maybe beginning in the second half of next year," Geithner said, adding those same economists predict positive growth during the second half of this year.

    At the same time, Geithner and other administration officials are contemplating how to ask Congress to extend -- again -- unemployment benefits for the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs in recent months. The proposal drew measured support from Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., as long as the benefits are drawn from the already approved economic stimulus package.

    "We need to take care of those who are unemployed, but we also need to make sure they get jobs," he said.

    Those jobs, though, are still elusive. Greenspan said the economy is slowly coming back.

    "Collapse, I think, is now off the table. We were teetering for a while," he said.

    Greenspan said he doesn't think the Federal Reserve should be considering raising interest rates to ward off inflation, although he added that the Fed will have to rein in credit and raise rates at some point.

    Obama's opponent for the presidency, Sen. John McCain, questioned whether the administration's actions will prove beneficial for the country.

    "I think it's pretty clear, if you pump trillions of dollars into the economy, you will see some recovery," the Arizona Republican said while giving Obama credit for the improvement. "But the long-term consequences, I think, are going to be, unfortunately, devastating unless we do something about it."

    Geithner and Greenspan appeared on ABC's "This Week." Summers appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" and CBS's "Face the Nation." DeMint was interviewed on "Fox News Sunday." McCain spoke with CNN's "State of the Union."
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    I guess our text cut with the stimulus will be gone soon.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    It was only a matter of time. Treasury bubble is popping and now he needs cash from elsewher and there aint enough money at the top.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Quote Originally Posted by B5C View Post
    I guess our text cut with the stimulus will be gone soon.
    Having that many economic officials running around usually indicate this will probably happen.

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    I just hope you weren't surprised b y this announcement.

    I doubt he's going to get reelected now. Unless ACORN starts its multiregistering now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry X View Post
    I just hope you weren't surprised b y this announcement.

    I doubt he's going to get reelected now. Unless ACORN starts its multiregistering now.
    Also doesn't help that Obama wants to control the Census.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...versee-census/

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    I doubt he's going to get reelected now. Unless ACORN starts its multiregistering now.
    Acorn is supposed to be undergoing congressional investigation. That's kinda like asking the mob to clean up money laundering activites though.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Surprise! Tax and spend ftw!



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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Obama breaking a promise? The hell you say...

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    I know, it is horrible, but frankly I'm a bit relived, the only thing worse than tax and spend is spend and conjure the money out of your ass.

    Now if only he would cut spending for the remaining years in office and maybe actually decrease the national debt.... Well, we can all hope for miracles.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Obama decreasing the national debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Obama decreasing the national debt
    I know...

    Still though, Clinton did. (although credit goes to Bush Sr. for getting the ball rolling taking the political fall). And everyone thought he was a commie. Not that party affiliation actually means anything here.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    So, uhm, what promises does he have left to break?


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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Clinton also never quadrupaled it within his first six months in office.

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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Clinton also never quadrupaled it within his first six months in office.
    Did Obama?
    http://zfacts.com/p/318.html


    I can't vouch for how reliable this sight I got this from is, but it makes sense to me
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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Let's see:

    1. You inherit a fiscal disaster.
    2. You pass a $700bn stimulus package.
    3. You grant massive bailouts to the auto industry.
    4. You increase general government spending (cash for clunkers, extended unemp. benefits, etc).
    5. Unemployment rises (your main source of income diminishes).
    6. You continue fighting a war (simply reshifting forces to another theater).
    7. A significant slice of your population is or will retire soon (you must pay them SS/Medicare benefits).
    8. Consumer spending slows down.
    9. States have budgets crisis (begging you for help).
    10. You plan on taking on 100% of the burden of healthcare.

    And you seriously thought you could do all this without raising taxes? I gotta smoke some of that sheit!
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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Only quadrupled?
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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    So far.

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    Oh noes!

    His spending just caught up to him and the American people.

    True conservatism will triumph from the ashes of these decades of statist failures.
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    Default Re: Guess what.. Obama might break his tax promiss

    Obama might have been the best thing for the Republican party, it revived them as the "economic" party, over the "national security" party, although they're still both.

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    True conservatism will triumph from the ashes of these decades of statist failures.
    Hopefully.


    Did Obama?
    Yes.

    USA TODAY published an interactive chart on the the Obama Administration's significant increase in spending this year.
    In President Bush's last year in office, 2008, the deficit reached $459 billion:
    In President Obama's first year in office the deficit is expected to reach $1.75 trillion and that is if everything goes according to the rosy scenario they are hoping for:




    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...e-deficit.html

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