Line of Sight maximum

**Theodotos I** · August 01, 2009, 07:27 PM

The maximum line of sight bonus for a trait or ancillary is +5. Is there any way around this? Is this the maximum bonus for a character, or can it be cumulative through multiple traits, adding up to say, +15, or +20?

**konny** · August 02, 2009, 09:05 AM

I think it should be cumulative, but haven't tested it myself. You should try it by making two traits with +5 each and give them one after the other via console. The LOS should be about doubled when giving the second trait.

**Theodotos I** · August 03, 2009, 09:24 AM

Okay, will report my findings, but I don't think it is going to work. I already tried scripting in an ancillary each turn, doubling line of sight every turn, but nothing happened. Thanks.

**Theodotos I** · August 04, 2009, 12:23 PM

No joy. None whatsoever. I added two traits one after the other, then took them off in reverse order. Only +5 line of sight was added.

**konny** · August 04, 2009, 03:49 PM

Good to know, so this is not cumulative above 5.

What raises the next question: LOS is one of the "hidden attributes", and different to stuff like command stars and piety, it is not cumulative. Does this follow that the other "hidden attributes", like law or trading, aren't cumulative too, or are only up to 5?

**Theodotos I** · August 05, 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by konny

Good to know, so this is not cumulative above 5.

What raises the next question: LOS is one of the "hidden attributes", and different to stuff like command stars and piety, it is not cumulative. Does this follow that the other "hidden attributes", like law or trading, aren't cumulative too, or are only up to 5?

Hmm, don't have my Docudemons atm. I can check, though. This last was very disappointing, I was trying to work with the palantiri of TA:TW.

**SigniferOne** · August 16, 2009, 10:15 PM

Hold on, check the traits that spies have. Do their increases also cap out at 5? They have 10 levels of traits, and each seems to add a level to the line of sight.

**Theodotos I** · August 17, 2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by SigniferOne

Hold on, check the traits that spies have. Do their increases also cap out at 5? They have 10 levels of traits, and each seems to add a level to the line of sight.

Will do, man. Thanks.

**Theodotos I** · August 18, 2009, 11:28 AM

Okay, opened up the file—I can only find five levels of positive traits and three levels of negative. The positive traits, you guessed it, they add up to +5 LineOfSight!

**GrnEyedDvl** · August 18, 2009, 10:52 PM

Quite some time ago I tested LineOfSight and the most I could get was a plus 25% no matter how I stacked up bonuses.

**Emperor of The Great Unknown** · August 19, 2009, 03:51 PM

so 5 = 25% which means it's 5% for each point. SI there a way to increase the standard LOS and then give everyone a trait to decrease the LOS to get a better affect?