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    Default Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,2702112.story

    That is the most trial ever held in the world? What the hell? They judge 100 people all at once? and they don't even have a lawyer! And worse than that, they have got turtored in the prison!

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    Does the regime know that this will provide fuel for further discontent?
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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinggis Khan View Post
    Does the regime know that this will provide fuel for further discontent?
    It's not their first time. They did it after revolution. They judged about 60 people's lives in 55 minutes. (That Damned Ayatollah Khalkhali did these)

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Robespierre said; You can't have a revolution without a revolution. He was right.
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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Maybe the men on trial can use this opportunity to publicly speak against the regime. They are doomed anyways, and better to be punished on your feet than on your knees.
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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Maybe the men on trial can use this opportunity to publicly speak against the regime. They are doomed anyways, and better to be punished on your feet than on your knees.
    They don't show it in public. No reporters even know the time of this trial. And regime TV only shows the ones who have said what Islamic Republic wants (of course, those tortures can bring down most of the men, any who does not obey will be killed like Mohsen Rooh-allamini) But they don't show the ones who still support Mousavi.

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    http://www.reuters.com/article/world...43622620090802
    Iran's Khatami says detainees' trial a "show"
    Sun Aug 2, 2009 4:47am EDT
    Iran tries 100 reformists over election unrest 4:47am EDT
    Iran says three U.S. tourists arrested: report 01 Aug 2009
    TEHRAN (Reuters) - Moderate former president Mohammad Khatami rejected as a "show" the trial of 100 prominent reformers who were arrested after Iran's disputed June presidential election set off unrest, his website said on Sunday.
    "The trial on Saturday was a show and the confessions are invalid ... What was called a trial was a violation of the constitution ... Such show trials will directly harm the system and will further damage public trust," his website khatami.ir reported.
    Iran tried on Saturday 100 moderates arrested shortly after Iran's June 12 election, charged with trying to overthrow the clerical establishment.
    It was the first time since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution that dozens of senior officials, including former ministers, vice-presidents and lawmakers, had been put on trial.
    The official IRNA news agency quoted the indictment as saying the charges against the defendants also included acting against national security by planning unrest, participating in the "Velvet Revolution," attacking military and state buildings and conspiring against the ruling system.
    State television showed footage of the courtroom with many young defendants, some handcuffed, and vice-president Mohammad Ali Abtahi, former deputy foreign minister Mohsen Aminzadeh and former MP Mohsen Mirdamadi in prison uniform.
    Leading moderates say the vote was rigged in favor of hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The authorities deny the charge and Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has endorsed Ahmadinejad's re-election.
    State television showed two prominent reformers saying that that the vote was not rigged. Abtahi, a close ally to Khatami, apologized for his misjudgments about the vote.

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    It's things like this that make me laugh when I hear people say that Iran is responsible enough to have nuclear weapons. I hope this attempt at revolution succeeds but I doubt it will.

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    I don't see why Americans want a moderate, secular republic in Iran when many Americans are trying to take their own country back to the 1950s cultural atmosphere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    It's things like this that make me laugh when I hear people say that Iran is responsible enough to have nuclear weapons. I hope this attempt at revolution succeeds but I doubt it will.
    No kidding. But remember US intervention would have only galvanized the people against us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajir View Post
    I don't see why Americans want a moderate, secular republic in Iran when many Americans are trying to take their own country back to the 1950s cultural atmosphere.
    I see you had nothing useful to post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajir View Post
    I don't see why Americans want a moderate, secular republic in Iran when many Americans are trying to take their own country back to the 1950s cultural atmosphere.
    In what way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubal_Barca View Post
    In what way?
    By clinging to their guns & religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    By clinging to their guns & religion.
    The ones who do that have been doing so since the 50s and will probably carry on that way. The ones who don't are the vast, vast majority and are as sane as any european, african, asian, or anything else.
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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    It's things like this that make me laugh when I hear people say that Iran is responsible enough to have nuclear weapons. I hope this attempt at revolution succeeds but I doubt it will.
    Yeah. One can alsways hope a revolution succeedes though, it would really be a nice change for the Middle East.

    Anyway this is just a shining example of why Iran should not be considered responsible enough to have nuclear technologies and certainly not nuclear weapons.

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Iran is not responsible enough for Nuclear technology, but Israel, China, Pakistan and India are?

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    China, no. Israel and India, sure why not.

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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Hopefully this will undermine rather than reinforce the Iranian government's position...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Iran is not responsible enough for Nuclear technology, but Israel, China, Pakistan and India are?
    Of course Israel is, its a real republic, which you dont' like being a young Muslim since you haven't got that out of your system yet.

    The rest not so much but its too late. Why add another one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Of course Israel is, its a real republic, which you dont' like being a young Muslim since you haven't got that out of your system yet.

    The rest not so much but its too late. Why add another one?
    India is a real republic too ,yet I don't think nuclear weapons have done any good for stability in South Asia.Then again it was Indira Gandhi (she was quite power crazy) who tested our first nuclear weapon in 1974,ten years after the first Chinese nuclear test.
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    Default Re: Trials start for 100 reformists, moderate politicians in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Of course Israel is, its a real republic, which you dont' like being a young Muslim since you haven't got that out of your system yet.

    The rest not so much but its too late. Why add another one?
    It's a "real republic" with real apartheid which is something actual republics and democracies tend to frown upon.

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