Are Mumaks too tiny?

[hengyu]

Title explains everything.

Personally I think that they are way too small....

[MasterBigAb]

Title explains everything.

Personally I think that they are way too small....

I personally also agree that they are bit too small, but i have no problem with it (what i like less is the fact that a little troll kills a big mumakil without any problem )

[hengyu]

I've never tried nor seen trolls against Mumaks lol. Ain't their factions allied?

[lennartje]

I "voted" for: I would love to have them larger, but I know that'd be bugged as hell, so they're fine.
Their pathfinding is crappy already, making them larger would make that even worse.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, it'd be one Mûmak, and two or more Mûmakil (not Mumaks ) [/grammarnazi]

[Warmaster Tibs]

I think theyre fine.

[Blackorc]

I think they are fine.

[hengyu]

Do you think that they're fine as in... you don't mind the shrink, or do you think that they look like what they look like in the films they're based on?

[Neige]

I don't mind the shrink. Considering Medieval 2's limited moding ability I am happy that there is a mod like TATW at all.

[Beregond]

I cannot imagine how they would fead themselves if they were like in Fourth Age TW,so they are fine as they are

[hengyu]

I cannot imagine how they would fead themselves if they were like in Fourth Age TW,so they are fine as they are

I don't get you...

[Smokey Bear]

I cannot imagine how they would fead themselves if they were like in Fourth Age TW,so they are fine as they are

Haha, how does this make any sense?

Anyways I think their size is fine, I've only encountered them a couple of times and I would think if they were any bigger pathfinding would be harder for them.

[Soul Firez]

It is kinda a lore vs game play issue on this one and well i like lore but the gamplay issue is a little to big to convert them to the size you want.

pathfinding nightmare i would rather see them the size they are now and usuable( and yes there moddeled after the film as all the visuals in the mod are so there size in that regards is not to bad)
then be turned into a more lore accurate version and be all but utterly unsuable in the game

[hengyu]

pathfinding nightmare i would rather see them the size they are now and usuable( and yes there moddeled after the film as all the visuals in the mod are so there size in that regards is not to bad)
then be turned into a more lore accurate version and be all but utterly unsuable in the game

I'm not referring to the lore. They are way bigger in the films...

[Skeleton Of The West]

i think Mumakil's sizw is fine as they are now.

[Galain_Ironhide]

Leave them as they are they are fine to me. And this is from a prospective of playing as the Harad and playing against the Harad.

[Momus]

They are fine but bigger is better ooohhhh yeah heh heh heh

[underxground]

Dont go by the movies .. go by the lore. PJ made them so the audience would go ooooh and ahhhh.
But really they were big elephants, not ten story building sized elephants.

Im soo tired of people saying .... "But in the movies they were ..... "
The movies represent one persons interpretation of what the cahracters and everything looked like ... not the be all end all.

[hengyu]

Dont go by the movies .. go by the lore. PJ made them so the audience would go ooooh and ahhhh.
But really they were big elephants, not ten story building sized elephants.

Im soo tired of people saying .... "But in the movies they were ..... "
The movies represent one persons interpretation of what the cahracters and everything looked like ... not the be all end all.

"Large beasts resembling elephants. Oliphaunts were grey with trunks and tusks and big flapping ears. They were much larger than the elephants of today. Oliphaunts came from Harad, in the far south of Middle-earth. The Haradrim used Oliphaunts in battle and put houses and towers on their backs to carry Men.
Sam Gamgee hoped to see an Oliphaunt when he learned that armies of Men from the southern lands were going to Mordor. He recited an old fireside rhyme called Oliphaunt, which made Frodo laugh despite his troubles. On March 7, 3019, Sam got his wish. In a battle between the Haradrim and the Rangers of Ithilien, an Oliphaunt broke loose and charged past where Sam stood. The great beast trampled Men as he went and then ran off to an unknown fate."


I thought that they were way bigger in the books too... Also, can you deny that the mod was based on the movies' visuals?

Edit: Did more research and found this.

"In the Third Age of the Sun in South Harad there lived beasts of vast bulk that are thought to be ancestors of elephants. Yet the elephants that now inhabit the world are much smaller in size and might than their great ancestors. According to The Red Book they were between 50 and 100 feet (15 and 30 meters) tall with four gigantic tusks and two lesser ones in the face. The Haradrim often used war paint on their mûmakil, to make them more fearsome. The war paint used could differ from the individual Haradrim tribes. "

Wouldn't that make their size somewhere between five storey buildings and 10 story buildings?

[Mac-Picsou]

As masterbigAB said, the only thing who disturb me is the fact that trolls can kill mumakils very easily...Hope for a fix in 1.2!

[Soul Firez]

@ underxground hmm i am sure PJ is absoulutly devistated you think he is a douche while he looks at his academy awards sitting on his mantle piece

I have no doubt you could have made a far better film with such well informed and level headed thinking
His versions of the story not perfect to be sure but all in all they where a pretty good attempt to convert one medium (books) and translate it to another medium (films) a very hard and never totally successfull venture.... there are a few things i wonder why on earth he did but overall i greatly enjoyed his films

i must also ask if you find him such an abomination (but strangely enjoyed his films on LOTR) King kong was actually again made very close to the original story of king kong in the books LOL .again not perfect but hey until you can show me a movie you have made and some proof your not a douche, what validaty has your opinion other than it is your opinion my opinion is not worth more than anyones elses it is purely my opinion ....

I state this as people seem to have this habit of using the phrase "nough said " as if what they have just said is the difinitive answer to something, a gross over statement indeed, a statement that more often than not does little more than show ones ignorance is only over shadowed by there inflated ego of themselves and there opinion .. the world is full of different tastes different people what one likes another will not ,it does not make it then in any way correct for either to say difinitively that it was good or bad mere opinion and i again re iterate my opinion is no more valid than yours they both remain mere statements of opinion not fact ......

NOUGH SAID LOL