The Creation Story..you know..Genesis.?

[familyguy1]

Ok So Im a RC..eh somewhat. Anyway. I dont know why but I have always subscribed to the Idea that the Creation Story is a myth, or more aptly put, a Metaphor for something...(Forgot what).

Dont bring up the stupid arguement "Well its in the Bible and thats totally true!".

So in a sense I am asking, what are your views on the Creation Story.. I dont care if you are Atheist, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or Muslim.

Actually that Brings up an interesting point, if you are apart of a defined, what is your version of the creation story as well, as in does it have anything in the Quran about it?

[MaximiIian]

Ok So Im a RC..eh somewhat. Anyway. I dont know why but I have always subscribed to the Idea that the Creation Story is a myth, or more aptly put, a Metaphor for something...(Forgot what).

IIRC, the official stance of the RCC is that the Genesis story, and indeed much of the Old Testament, is definitely not to be taken literally.

So in a sense I am asking, what are your views on the Creation Story.. I dont care if you are Atheist, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or Muslim.

As a polytheist and non-Christian, I see it as a creation myth borne from a time when scientific knowledge was minimal or rudimentary. But just because it is mythology doesn't mean you can't get some meaning out of it. I mean, that's the whole point of a myths, fables, et al.

[Tankbuster]

I think it's quite clearly an attempt of Bronze Age people to try to explain the origin of the world and the universe.
It is however, seriously lacking. They don't talk about micro-organisms, because the authors of the book don't know they exist, for example.
We've outgrown it.

[Hippolord]

We've outgrown it.

We will never outgrow it...(IMO)

It's human nature...

[DekuTrash]

Dang, I could express my views.....

But I risk persecution

(Runs Away)

[Cúchulainn]

It is by any reasoned account a children story.

All major religion have one, none coincide with one another.

Which is a bit odd.

[familyguy1]

It is by any reasoned account a children story.

All major religion have one, none coincide with one another.

Which is a bit odd.

Thats true which is weird, because apparently in most religions, they have some account of a flood happening which destroyed the "known world", to them it could not have meant the world as we know it today.

[Claudius Gothicus]

Pure BS, it's a myth, like the Titanomachia or the Tale of Isis and Osiris, don't know why this fundie s still believe it. If God had to create the Earth in 7 days then he's not that all powerful is he?.

[familyguy1]

Pure BS, it's a myth, like the Titanomachia or the Tale of Isis and Osiris, don't know why this fundie s still believe it. If God had to create the Earth in 7 days then he's not that all powerful is he?.

I know. It just got annoying as a kid, because it was drilled into us for some reason..even though we never beleived it.

Yah it seems like he was pretty desperate to have to create the world in one week

[Taxandrius]

The creation myth is like the whole bible: it's a fable, a moralising stroy which the contemporaries would have understood. But as time goes by, the real meaning is forgotten and what rests is a dogma, which the Church drills into its believers to consolidate its power

[removeduser_426582376423734]

It is by any reasoned account a children story.

All major religion have one, none coincide with one another.

Which is a bit odd.

Well, that's not true. The Hindu and Greek traditions, loosely and only in certain sects but nonetheless, coincide on many areas. But of course, that is probably due to migrations of peoples and traditions rather than divine inspiration.

[Tigrul]

Here's my version of the creation story:
1. I have no clue how reality came into existence, or if it even needed to come into existence at all. I am honest enough to admit not knowing and to avoid believing and claiming in unproven ideas.
2. I don't know much about how our universe came into existence, although the only current evidence we have points out to the Big-Bang, so the theory of the big-bang is the closest thing we have to the truth at the moment.
3. I don't know how life emerged on Earth
4. A huge amount of evidence points to the idea that all life on Earth evolved, and therefore that we are all products of a process going on for at least 3 billion years.

[MaximiIian]

Thats true which is weird, because apparently in most religions, they have some account of a flood happening which destroyed the "known world", to them it could not have meant the world as we know it today.

Well, the flood myth is really more endemic to societies that developed in river valleys or coastal areas that flooded frequently, and occasionally to devastating effect. Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Japanese, and other groups developed flood myths because flooding was what they were familiar with. These kind of myths were rare among landlocked cultures, like the continental Celts or the Slavs, or among insular cultures with stable coastlines and river valleys, like the Britons and Gaels.

So, not "most religions". Just some of the largest ones.

[Theseus1234]

FACT: Most people want answers. Most people want a reason for something happening. Curiosity is a natural human instinct
What's more convenient than an omnipotent being that can do whatever the hell he wants? In the days of the budding of Judaism, people could not explain how everything they see around them came to be because they lacked the science or the evidence. So BAM, the creation story! The myth just developed from there

[CtrlAltDe1337]

I believe the Bible records accurate history, including the creation, flood, story of Abraham, and the Exodus. I don't believe its just a "story," and I would like to ask any Christian who says such if they believe that Jesus performed miracles (or even existed). Was he just a "story" too? If not, then why do you have a problem with believing in Genesis and the other books of the Bible?

[My Favorite Martian]

I believe the Bible records accurate history, including the creation, flood, story of Abraham, and the Exodus.

As you have said elsewhere:

... we can believe falsehood ...

So, there is also a mistake in what follows but we leave this aside for now.

[Tankbuster]

I believe the Bible records accurate history, including the creation, flood, story of Abraham, and the Exodus. I don't believe its just a "story," and I would like to ask any Christian who says such if they believe that Jesus performed miracles (or even existed). Was he just a "story" too? If not, then why do you have a problem with believing in Genesis and the other books of the Bible?

When I was still a christian, I believed in the miracles of Jesus, because there was no evidence for or against them. You could happily think they happened.
With regards to the flood, Abraham, Exodus, there is a tremendous amount of geological and archaelogical evidence that these are fairy-tales.

The difference is between believing something that could be true, to believing in something that can't be.

[My Favorite Martian]

It's not my intention to bring anyone away from his beliefs, more to improve his critical abilities, what is not identical with exchanging one ideology for another but to orientate oneself more freely in relation to the convictions one has learnt elsewhere.

[Cavendish]

I believe the Bible records accurate history, including the creation, flood, story of Abraham, and the Exodus. I don't believe its just a "story," and I would like to ask any Christian who says such if they believe that Jesus performed miracles (or even existed). Was he just a "story" too? If not, then why do you have a problem with believing in Genesis and the other books of the Bible?

The Bible in no way records 'accurate history'. Are you trying to tell me that you believe the Bible when it says that there was a mega-flood around 6000BC and every species on earth survived via an ark built by one guy and then both the human race and every species on earth spread out from there, despit the fact that there is evidence to suggest that there is continuous and uninterrupted settlement of areas of both North and South America, Asia and the Australian continent both millions of years before that and thousands of years after?

And how are we supposed to do that without the word of God?

If the Bible is true and the word of God, it stands to reason that you should be able to defend it outside of saying "It's the word of God and therefore must be true".

With all due respect, that post immediately before mine makes absolutely no sense.

[familyguy1]

The Bible in no way records 'accurate history'. Are you trying to tell me that you believe the Bible when it says that there was a mega-flood around 6000BC and every species on earth survived via an ark built by one guy and then both the human race and every species on earth spread out from there, despit the fact that there is evidence to suggest that there is continuous and uninterrupted settlement of areas of both North and South America, Asia and the Australian continent both millions of years before that and thousands of years after?



If the Bible is true and the word of God, it stands to reason that you should be able to defend it outside of saying "It's the word of God and therefore must be true".

With all due respect, that post immediately before mine makes absolutely no sense.

The story of the Flood is possible... not the ark part. But the flood in general is possible.... so far every story says the whole world was flooded.. which is possible because each of the people that said so could have had a flood in their part of the world that may be the "known world" to them. Noah's flood could have possibly been in Mesopotamia, which there was a flood.