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    http://www.ajc.com/news/nyc-to-ship-...ss-103278.html
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    NYC to ship homeless out to destination of choice




    By KATIE LESLIE

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Some homeless families in New York may be leaving on a midnight plane to Georgia under a program to ease that city’s financial burden in caring for them.
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    The Big Apple is offering homeless families a one-way plane ticket out of New York to the destination of their choice, as long as a family member agrees to take them in. The program aims to keep the homeless out of New York’s shelter system, which costs upwards of $36,000 a year per family. More than 550 families who otherwise couldn’t afford to return home have left New York since 2007.
    New York City officials said families have been sent to 24 states and five continents so far, mostly to Georgia, Florida, the Carolinas and Puerto Rico.
    According to the New York Times, 38 families have relocated to Georgia since the program began, and 100 families have been flown to Florida.
    City officials say there are no limits on where a family can be sent and families can reject the offer. Officials said none of the relocated families have returned to city shelters, at least in New York.
    Edward Powers, executive director of Traveler’s Aid of Metro Atlanta, said programs like these are as much about uniting families as they are curing the problem of homelessness.
    Traveler’s Aid is a social service organization helping families in crisis or transition with housing, food, transportation and counseling.
    Powers explained the program is geared toward families who may have fallen on hard times in a new place, but don’t have the money to return home.
    “It’s helping people get back to a verifiable support system elsewhere,” he said.
    Traveler’s Aid of Metro Atlanta, with funding from Mayor Shirley Franklin’s homeless coalition, has helped more than 11,000 families in this program since late 2003, he said.
    Michael Stoops, executive director of the National Coalition for the Homeless, sharply criticized the New York program.
    “Just because you’re homeless, you should not be kicked out of a city,” he said. “It’s morally wrong and it’s probably unconstitutional.”
    Stoops said despite the requirement that a person’s family must agree to take them in, some homeless families could provide the name of a friend or relative, only to end up in a shelter in the new city.
    “If they are homeless in New York, you don’t want them to be homeless in Atlanta,” he said. “It doesn’t solve the problem...I think it’s an outrage. It’s just not right.”
    Powers said that after a move, Traveler’s Aid follows-up with a family the next day, one month and then six months later, he said.
    “And overwhelmingly, people are where they intended to be,” he said. ”It’s cost-effective. It’s humane. And it’s the lynchpin of the solutions to the problem of homelessness in our community.”
    The Coalition for the Homeless, a New York-based advocacy and service organization, defends the program as a common sense approach to helping families in need.
    “In the face of record family homelessness, even in the rare case where it involves international travel, helping a homeless family with travel expenses to connect to permanent housing with a family member, friend or loved is a more common sense and cost effective solution than keeping them in shelter,” said executive director Mary Brosnahan in a statement Wednesday. “This was the idea behind Traveler’s Aid when it was founded more than 150 years ago and an approach that has been employed by New York City and other major metropolitan areas for decades.”
    CFTH spokesman Patrick Markee adds that the program isn’t designed to remove, for cosmetic purposes, the folks found sleeping on the streets. Rather, it’s geared toward families who otherwise can’t afford to return home.
    -- The Associated Press contributed to this report.


    Kind of reminds me of the South Park episode where it is invaded by homeless people. This is a weird way to deal with a homeless problem. Comments?

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    Where I'm from cops would pick up the homeless, drive them across the bridge to the city, then drop them off.
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    Dunno seems like a good idea to me, families have to apply for it and for anyone who traveled to ny to "live their dreams" and found the city unforgiving and ended up on hard times has a way to go back home. The goal of the program seems centered on those people or people who have family elsewhere but no means to get there not native NYers who are homeless.

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    I'd send them all to San Fransisco but thats just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    I'd send them all to San Fransisco but thats just me.
    Funny you mention this because this is what has allegedly happened in the past (NYC homeless rounded up, loaded onto buses, and dropped off in West Coast cities).
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    Its not a bad idea .
    Except for the part where they dont drive a plane full of them into bin ladens bunker i mean.

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    good kick the bums out, only the retarded have my sympathies. If i can get up every morning and work, damnit so can you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    good kick the bums out, only the retarded have my sympathies. If i can get up every morning and work, damnit so can you.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    good kick the bums out, only the retarded have my sympathies. If i can get up every morning and work, damnit so can you.
    So what you're saying, is that you have boatloads of sympathy for yourself?

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    it will be good for the people who are actually stuck there in a catch 22 situation.

    but alot of bums dont have familys, or dont want them so its not really gonna have a "huge" affect.


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    I'm sure it sounds great...if you live in NYC.

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    My brother told me about this when he lived in Hawai'i. States in the north would send homeless people a one-way ticket to Kaliua-Kona, Hawai'i, which now has a huge homeless problem. A lot of them are addicted to crystal meth, which also contributes to the rise in rapes and sexually motivated crimes in Hawai'i.

    It's kind of bitter-sweet. On one hand its cheaper, and the homeless have a better chance of surviving the more harsh winters in the south, but on the other hand, it's a quick fix that just shoulders the weight onto someone else.

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    lol thats great

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    Kinda of disappointing seeing the reaction by some people in this thread who seem to think every homeless person is a bum or a crack head especially given current global economic conditions. My only guess is many of you are young and probably live in the comfort zone of knowing you have your parents to fall back on if the real world becomes too scary for you, the alternative is a lack of any empathy or compassion for people and jumping to conclusions on why someone is homeless. Yes there are indeed bums, drunks, druggies who are homeless but many of them are families or even single people caught in bad situations.

    The idea of the plan is sound in that it may allow someone to start over, yes you can argue that it is simply NYC trying to unload problems and that would be fair but it is also something that can be used by people caught in a city that are indeed working in but simply cant afford the cost of living. You people are aware there are actually homeless people who DO have jobs but simply cant make enough for regular housing and caught on the hell wait lists of public housing. Maybe job opportunities are better elsewhere for people like this, good let them take advantage of this then.
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    Here in Rio, in the Sixties, the police had the habit of arresting the homeless after twilight, chaining them to heavy burdens and throwing them in the sea. They stopped doing that after the beggars and the like started to sleep with life-jackets tied around their necks.

    New York's plan of action is reasonable and, best of all, economical. No city government has much money to waste right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Consul View Post
    Here in Rio, in the Sixties, the police had the habit of arresting the homeless after twilight, chaining them to heavy burdens and throwing them in the sea. They stopped doing that after the beggars and the like started to sleep with life-jackets tied around their necks.

    New York's plan of action is reasonable and, best of all, economical. No city government has much money to waste right now.

    sick police you got there in the 60s (i think this story could make a good horror movie)

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    Quote Originally Posted by igotballsofsteel View Post
    sick police you got there in the 60s (i think this story could make a good horror movie)
    That is when poor people are treated like animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopasties View Post
    That is when poor people are treated like animals.
    It also sounds like an urban legend as the concept of sleeping with a lifejacket on your neck doesn't exactly sound 'effective'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    It also sounds like an urban legend as the concept of sleeping with a lifejacket on your neck doesn't exactly sound 'effective'.
    Brazil and other countries do not have the highest standard of conduct towards those who do not pay taxes. I have no idea if that story is true or not but Rio is a harsh place for those who are poor. I read a travel book once about how schizophrenic it is down there, the writer went down there to cover some story. He had been mugged 3 times and was being mugged a 4th time when he grumbled to the mugger about already being mugged 3 times. The mugger actually felt embarrased and returned his money. It is a rather competitive place as far as eonomic status goes. The people are supposed to be really friendly otherwise but money dictates alot.

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    Why is everyone praising this?

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