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    Default Could you ever do these things?

    Today acts of terrorism are commonplace; trains bombed, buildings blown up, hotels seized - it's inhabitants executed.

    We tend to look at these things and wonder how people could do these things to other, innocent people. My question is; could you do such things? Is there any cause for which you would say; murder an innocent woman? If your country were invaded by an oppressive regime and you felt targetting the families of the soldiers would damage morale and deter other 'invaders' from coming over - would you do it?

    What if you were Jewish during the holocaust and your entire people were earmarked for exterimination? Then could you do some of these horrible things if you felt they may help your situation in the long run?
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    Sure.

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    Desperate times...
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    Default Re: Could you ever do these things?

    I would wage guerrilla warfare against an occupying army, but I could never kill innocents on purpose like terrorists do.


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    What if the occupying army was killing innocents too?
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    Default Re: Could you ever do these things?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post
    What if the occupying army was killing innocents too?
    I don't think we should do wrong just because the enemy does.


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    Default Re: Could you ever do these things?

    Citizens of the nation supporting the occupation of my country wouldn't be innocent in my book.

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    Will get back to you if anything ever happens that sends me over the edge and let you know what it took.
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    If I was poor had been raised in palestine, desperate and had seen my family killed. I'd probably be part of the resistance attacking Israel.

    You are your peers, your friends and influences define who you are as a person which is why your choice in your companions is so fundamental. Because their goals can become your goals or influence them heavily.

    The answer isn't whether or not I could do it, the answer is anyone could do it and there is a surprising amount of evidence in the form of psychological experiments to prove it.

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    Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post
    What if the occupying army was killing innocents too?
    "Killing" innocents like Israel or killing innocents like the US, UN and Soviets?

    If it's the former I could live with it, as long as you're doing everything to minimize the risk to civilians that's all you can expect, War is a dirty business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seneca View Post
    If I was poor had been raised in palestine, desperate and had seen my family killed. I'd probably be part of the resistance attacking Israel.
    Let me guess, British?

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    Default Re: Could you ever do these things?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post
    Today acts of terrorism are commonplace; trains bombed, buildings blown up, hotels seized - it's inhabitants executed.

    We tend to look at these things and wonder how people could do these things to other, innocent people. My question is; could you do such things? Is there any cause for which you would say; murder an innocent woman? If your country were invaded by an oppressive regime and you felt targetting the families of the soldiers would damage morale and deter other 'invaders' from coming over - would you do it?
    No, because if you have to resort to such measures to "win," you've already lost.

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    Only if the only objective of the game you're playing is to stay pure.

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    Default Re: Could you ever do these things?

    Nobody knows what they would do under extreme situtations until they are faced with them.

    Were i put under the pressure of an invading army and different circumstances i would abandon any pretence at morality, though i like to think that i would draw the line at wanton murder of civilians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    No, because if you have to resort to such measures to "win," you've already lost.
    If you're going to lose the conventional way, the only thing you can hope for is to at least make the other bastard "lose" something as well. Preferably public support of his occupation.

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    Surely staying "in the right" and refusing to murder civillians would count for little if your people and your way of life ended up erradicated?
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    maverick I meant more the active targetting of civillians ; perhaps to break morale etc
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    Let's say that a foreign country occupies my own and tries to pacify it through questionable methods, then maybe yeah. And only if my direct peers/family is affected, if not I probably wouldn't risk my life.

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    No matter what the circumstances may be, one who would murder an innocent woman is a complete retard. One who would do it surely is not just a complete retard but also scum of the earth and should be fed to the pigs as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    No matter what the circumstances may be, one who would murder an innocent woman is a complete retard. One who would do it surely is not just a complete retard but also scum of the earth and should be fed to the pigs as such.

    How about an innocent man?
    surly women and men have the same value.

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