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    Default CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Perhaps there is a good reason to be afraid?

    ATLANTA — In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40% of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful vaccine campaign and other measures.

    The estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are roughly twice the number of those who catch flu in a normal season and add greater weight to hurried efforts to get a new vaccine ready for the fall flu season.

    Swine flu has already hit the United States harder than any other nation, but it has struck something of a glancing blow that's more surprising than devastating. The virus has killed about 300 Americans and experts believe it has sickened more than 1 million, comparable to a seasonal flu with the weird ability to keep spreading in the summer.

    Health officials say flu cases may explode in the fall, when schools open and become germ factories, and the new estimates dramatize the need to have vaccines and other measures in place.

    A world health official said the first vaccines are expected in September and October. The United States expects to begin testing on some volunteers in August, with 160 million doses ready in October.
    The CDC came up with the new projections for the virus' spread last month, but it was first disclosed in an interview this week with The Associated Press.

    The estimates are based on a flu pandemic from 1957, which killed nearly 70,000 in the United States but was not as severe as the infamous Spanish flu pandemic of 1918-19. The number of deaths and illnesses from the new swine flu virus would drop if the pandemic peters out or if efforts to slow its spread are successful, said CDC spokesman Tom Skinner.

    "Hopefully, mitigation efforts will have a big impact on future cases," he said. Besides pushing flu shots, health officials might urge measures such as avoiding crowded places, handwashing, cough covering and timely use of medicines like Tamiflu.

    Because so many more people are expected to catch the new flu, the number of deaths over two years could range from 90,000 to several hundred thousand, the CDC calculated. Again, that is if a new vaccine and other efforts fail.

    In a normal flu season, about 36,000 people die from flu and its complications, according to the American Medical Association. That too is an estimate, because death certificates don't typically list flu as a cause of death. Instead, they attribute a fatality to pneumonia or other complications.

    Influenza is notoriously hard to predict, and some experts have shied away from a forecast. At a CDC swine flu briefing Friday, one official declined to answer repeated questions about her agency's own estimate.

    "I don't think that influenza and its behavior in the population lends itself very well to these kinds of models," said the official, Dr. Anne Schuchat, who oversees the CDC's flu vaccination programs.

    The World Health Organization says as many as 2 billion people could become infected in the next two years — nearly a third of the world population. The estimates look at potential impacts in a two-year period because past flu pandemics have occurred in waves over more than one year.

    Swine flu has been an escalating concern in Britain and some other European nations, where the virus' late arrival has grabbed attention and some officials at times have sounded alarmed.
    In an interview Friday, the WHO's flu chief told the AP the global epidemic is still in its early stages.

    "Even if we have hundreds of thousands of cases or a few millions of cases ... we're relatively early in the pandemic," Keiji Fukuda said at WHO headquarters in Geneva.

    The first vaccines are expected in September and October, Fukuda said. Other vaccines won't be ready until well into the flu season when a further dramatic rise in swine flu cases is expected.

    First identified in April, swine flu has likely infected more than 1 million Americans, the CDC believes, with many of those suffering mild cases never reported. There have been 302 deaths and nearly 44,000 laboratory-identified cases, according to numbers released Friday morning.

    Because the swine flu virus is new, most people haven't developed an immunity to it. So far, most of those who have died from it in the United States have had other health problems, such as asthma.

    The virus has caused an unusual number of serious illnesses in teens and young adults; seasonal flu usually is toughest on the elderly and very young children.

    Associated Press writer Frank Jordans in Geneva contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Swine flu has struck the United States harder than any other nation, eh?

    Harder than Mexico?

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Quote Originally Posted by Pious Agnost View Post
    Swine flu has struck the United States harder than any other nation, eh?

    Harder than Mexico?
    Uhhh...Yeah....Were have you been?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

    US Swine flu cases: 43,771[4]
    US Swin flu deaths: 340[5]

    Mexico swine flu cases: 15,727[8]
    Mexico swine flu deaths: 141[8]

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Who knows I may have had it already.
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    Britian has it the worst in Europe and is spreading like wild fire.

    As long as it doesn't hit Ireland that hard I couldn't care less about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    Britian has it the worst in Europe and is spreading like wild fire.
    You also have to take into account that Britain is a lot better than it's European neighbours at finding and recording health problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado † View Post
    You also have to take into account that Britain is a lot better than it's European neighbours at finding and recording health problems.
    ? The other western Eu countries have pretty good health systems. Some of them have a better one than the British.
    So i doubt that's the reason. The flu would probably spread in continental Europe in the Autumn.
    But all this media attention is simply scaremongering. I remember the Bird Flu, the Sars and so on, we're still alive.
    As long as no harmful mutation happen, Swine flu will just be a normal flu, with a few thousands of death in the west as the normal flu.
    It can be a problem in third world countries however.
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    To be honest I get more nervous about catching stomach flus than swine flu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    To be honest I get more nervous about catching stomach flus than swine flu.
    I'd rather catch "stomach flu" 5 times (likely more) than catch swine flu once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Fanatic :) View Post
    I'd rather catch "stomach flu" 5 times (likely more) than catch swine flu once.
    Umm, why? All the swine flu does is give you a cough, a fever, the chills, and lots of snot. I'd prefer that over wrenching my guts out from both ends.
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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Scaremongering. Pure and simple. A death rate of .05 percent so far. Seasonal flu has a higher death rate. It will pass over in Winter and it will be done with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    Scaremongering. Pure and simple. A death rate of .05 percent so far. Seasonal flu has a higher death rate. It will pass over in Winter and it will be done with.
    Perhaps in the world. But in the US or Western countries? I doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Fanatic :) View Post
    Perhaps in the world. But in the US or Western countries? I doubt that.
    No, season flu kills a lot of elderly people and people with underlying health issues. Swine flu could mutate, COULD, but still has not. We will just have to wait and see but so for, just pure scaremongering.

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    Scaremongering. Pure and simple. A death rate of .05 percent so far. Seasonal flu has a higher death rate. It will pass over in Winter and it will be done with.
    Wrong!

    Global swine flu death rate: 0.62%
    US swine flu death rate: 0.78%

    US regular flu death rate: <0.05%

    But heck: facts are boring and pulling stats out of your ass to "disprove" a "media scare" makes you look sooooo cool.



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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    media fearmongering

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/lo...qY3qhp9zQ.cspx



    Wrong!

    Global swine flu death rate: 0.62%
    US swine flu death rate: 0.78%

    US regular flu death rate: <0.05%

    But heck: facts are boring and pulling stats out of your ass to "disprove" a "media scare" makes you look sooooo cool.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...es-flawed.html
    Last edited by patrick1191; July 29, 2009 at 11:45 AM.

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    Scaremongering. Pure and simple. A death rate of .05 percent so far. Seasonal flu has a higher death rate. It will pass over in Winter and it will be done with.
    .05 percent of 40% of the population is still a lot of people, wouldn't you say?

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    A predicted third of Finns will also get the flu once the summer vacation is over, so this is not alarming by any rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashashi View Post
    Scaremongering. Pure and simple. A death rate of .05 percent so far. Seasonal flu has a higher death rate. It will pass over in Winter and it will be done with.
    The major concern for many health organizations and people was the speed the flu was able to spread all across the world, and the speed it have been able to mutate itself (some forms of the disease are already immune to certain vaccines).
    Last edited by Ragabash; July 29, 2009 at 02:25 AM.
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    RUNNNN1!!!!!!

    ITS GONNA KILL US ALLL!!!

    THE PIGS ARE GONNA RAPE OUR BUILDINGS AND BURN OUR WOMEN!!!!!

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    Bah, the whole swine flu thing is just a stupid over-reaction, like SARS or al-Qaeda. I do agree that steps needs to be taken to ensure that things don't go wildly out of hand (monitoring the spread and progress of the virus, minimizing species jump, etc.), but I absolutely detest anyone who makes it look like the sky is falling and the swine flu will turn us all into zombies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berke Khan View Post
    RUNNNN1!!!!!!

    ITS GONNA KILL US ALLL!!!

    THE PIGS ARE GONNA RAPE OUR BUILDINGS AND BURN OUR WOMEN!!!!!
    An global caliphate doesn't sound so bad now, isn't it?

    I for one welcome our pig-hating Islamic overlords.

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    Default Re: CDC: Up to 40% of Americans could get Swine Flu

    Oh, the media loves a good apocalypse. Of course it;s all bollocks, but they still love it.

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