The Solution to the Northern Mexican States for The United States

[Son of Mao]

The United States should hold a referendum in the Northern Mexican States asking if they would like to join the United States.

After asking around Mexico on my recent trip to all six of it's northern border states I have found that 70% or even 80% would give the "yes" vote.

The benefits for the Mexican Citizen:

Emancipation for the Mexican People
Freedom from cartels
Higher education
They can be members of the United States

The benefits for the United States:

A stable south
Solution to the immigration issue
A way to move towards consolidation of the North American economy under a United States government.
All of Mexico's resources(many)


I. The Approach
a. A Referendum

How do you initiate this?

1. Create a general non-binding consensus throughout Mexico to test opinion on joining the United States

2. Launch a referendum in the northern six Mexican states (Nuevo León, Chihuahua, Tamaulipas, Baja California, Coahuila, Sonora) as well as Baja California Sur.

3. Following a successful referendum the American Military would move in to secure the territories and make sure Mexican government hands over the territories peacefully.

4. The Citizens would be subject to United States constitution and federal law and Mexican rule of law would be repealed.

5. The initializing of a 25-year transition period from territory to statehood.

6. The United States government would encourage corporations to invest in the North Mexican territories.

II. Long term strategy

a. Assimilation of all of Mexico and the Mexican people into American society
1. Following a success in the north referendum a national referendum will be offered throughout Mexico and as far as the referendum passes.

b. The European Union provides an effective model for integration
1. In a similar way to the way the European Union is creating a “European” identity. A Pan-American identity would be essential for unity throughout the nation.


III. The Consequences of failure to adapt to a new strategy

a. Increasingly destabilizing population in the southern United States

b. A more volatile, corrupt Mexico

c. A United States that is diminishing in influence


What are your opinions on this? I personally believe this is about to go mainstream politically based on my knowledge Texas politicians.

Note: I am giving up the acts I am not Abkhazian or Chinese, I am from Texas. I am going to begin serious forum discussion starting with this topic.

[Hub'ite]

The cons outweigh the pros.

[Son of Mao]

The cons outweigh the pros.

What Cons?

[DaLeGiOnArY]

What Cons?

1.The laws will change out of nowhere
2. Illegal immigrants won't be illegal
3.Drug cartels don't need to drive across the border anymore since it's not there.
a few more things, but i just woke up and i'm tired as hell. Goin to sleep at ten=bad if you wake up at five.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

If the people of Mexico are willing, why not? I don't give a fig for the Mexican government. Something must be ed up down there for so many to want to come here, even if it is only for work. Make them a part of the US and problem solved.

[Son of Mao]

If the people of Mexico are willing, why not? I don't give a fig for the Mexican government. Something must be ed up down there for so many to want to come here, even if it is only for work. Make them a part of the US and problem solved.

Mexico is a very poorly run country, yet the land and people the nation was placed on are destined for so much more.

Why do we have to take care of Mexico? We already can't take care of ourselves.

You do understand that the population of the top 6 Mexican states is only around 18-19 million. The 25 year experimental phase is to test this but economically it would be even far less dramatic than the Czech republic reincorporating Slovakia.

[DekuTrash]

How bout' a big ING NO

Let Mexico's government fix itself!

[Son of Mao]

How bout' a big ING NO

Let Mexico's government fix itself!

If things do not change how they are now we are looking in the near futute at a Mexico at the knees or drug bosses and a southern United states that is not a good place to live in. There is so much at risk. The population of Texas if projected to double before half this century is over. Think about it doubling the infrastructure for a Texas with a total of 45 million people. Immigration isn't going to stop so how about we bring them in and quit wasting money on larger walls. If they want to be American we can't stop them why not help them.

[DekuTrash]

A majority of the American people would never approve of it.

[Thanatos]

Why do we have to take care of Mexico? We already can't take care of ourselves.

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

Why do we have to take care of Mexico? We already can't take care of ourselves.

Take care of? Pardon my English, but that . Lets just take it over through referendum or other popular support method.

[DekuTrash]

Take care of? Pardon my English, but that . Lets just take it over through referendum or other popular support method.

Let it's own Government fix it, and if chaos breaks in the northern region just ramp up the border, send troops for all I care.

[Downey]

Why do we have to take care of Mexico? We already can't take care of ourselves.

look how well the Mexican government is taking care of its citizens, this drug war is getting brutal and unfortunately the Mexican military is too corrupt to deal with it.

I support it in that I would very much like to see a North American Union, but Im also against it because to be honest I simply do not trust the US government to treat Mexicans fairly.

O come on, I see a lot of Americans taking on the Mexicans, you forgot how much Mexican culture has already had an impact here, even as far north as Iowa we have lots of Mexican restaurants and Latinos in the community.

[Thanatos]

look how well the Mexican government is taking care of its citizens, this drug war is getting brutal and unfortunately the Mexican military is too corrupt to deal with it.

Not my problem. If it were me, I'd bring out troops home and have them patrol the border. Europe and certain parts of Asia can take care of themselves, thank you very much.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Let's.....not.

[Downey]

Not my problem. If it were me, I'd bring out troops home and have them patrol the border. Europe and certain parts of Asia can take care of themselves, thank you very much.

You sound to be an isolationist, and were not talking about Europe, or Asia. Were talking about a country that has large populations in the US, the SW States have become intertwined with Hispanic culture, and would be doing both countries a benefit. A more stable government for Mexico, while a end to immigration for the US. Too me the benefits outweigh the negatives, but were all entitled to our own opinion.

[nopasties]

You sound to be an isolationist, and were not talking about Europe, or Asia. Were talking about a country that has large populations in the US, the SW States have become intertwined with Hispanic culture, and would be doing both countries a benefit. A more stable government for Mexico, while a end to immigration for the US. Too me the benefits outweigh the negatives, but were all entitled to our own opinion.

Not all illegals are Mexican. There are growing populations from El Salvador, Honduras.

[manofarms89]

very interesting. to be honest Im not sure if I agree with it or not.

[Admiral Piett]

There is no real resources or benefit for the US to annex. It won't solve the immigration problem either. If Mexicans want to live better they should reform their government and economy. I don't want them to be US citizens just for the money and social benefits and have no desire to our language, accept our culture, and obey our laws.

This has to be proposed by someone that does not live on a border state. Those of us who live in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, will be the first people to stand up and give you an unequivocal NO. The problems us border states suffer from Mexican aliens and the drug trade would only exponentially worsen if certain Mexican provinces were suddenly put under US authority. Think about the Tijuana mess right now.

It would be a huge financial decay for us at the moment trying to prop up proper infrastructure alone. Not to mention having these cartels to worry about. Besides, the border we have now is the most effective one geographically.

[Lord Consul]

States such as California, New Mexico and Florida have more in common with the Mexican north than with, say, Michigan. Back in 1996, the first language I heard upon setting foot on American soil was Spanish. Over 30 million Americans have Spanish as their first language and speak it at home.

In many ways, Northern Mexico is already part of the United States. All the major industries and manufactures in the border region are the so-called maquiladoras, that is, businesses owned by Americans who deal mainly in the American market that are based in Northern Mexico to evade taxes and avoid inspection from federal authorities. The drug cartels that seemingly rule the region earn millions selling drugs in the Californian market.

The scenario envisioned by the OP is too fantastic to materialize. But the truth is, you can't trust the Mexican government to fix the major problems found in the border regions.