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“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
I thought the Curia had already passed this decision. Hopefully my memory does not betray from that age.
Support.
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May want to change these here two words as well, for continuity's sake words too:
The Hexagon Council is the overarching governing body of the site. It is composed of Permanent Members and Non Permanent Members representing the needs of the Executive at any given time. All Hexagon Members fulfill normal day-to-day duties and all should discuss and co-ordinate their policies inside the Hexagon Council.
Permanent Members
There shall befourthree Permanent members on the Hexagon Council:
* The Site Owner
* Chief Moderator - Serves as Head of the Moderation Branch
* Chief of Content - Serves as Head of the Content Branch
* Chief Technician - Serves as Head of the Technical Branch
Thethreetwo Branch Chiefs shall lead their branch, and be the principal officer responsible for policy within thethreetwo branches. It shall normally be presumed that they shall be selected from within their branch.
The appointment of each branch chief is decided by the Hexagon Council but must be ratified by the Staff of the branch they are being appointed too.
Non Permanent Officers
An undefined number of non permanent Hexagon members may be appointed by the Hexagon Council as and when necessary. Normally these Hexagon members shall be drawn from the Staff ranks, but other members of the site may be invited in.
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Made the changes.
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the usage of the section that defines Hexagon Officers. Technically speaking, the same person could be bother Head of Tech and Head of Content. Now, that's highly unlikely with the current workload, but it's altogether possible. Currently we have a Site Owner who dabbles in everything, a Chief Technician, a Sub-Chief Technican/Sub-Modding Rep/On-site Server Dude/All-around Go-getter, a Modding Rep who dabbles in Content and Moderation, a newly christened Chief of Content who likely still dabbles in Moderation, etc.
The definition of roles seems kind of odd. There's nothing which calls for a Modding Representative in the Constitution, but there will always be a central point of contact for modding concerns on the council(Aradan currently serves that function primarily, and it's listed where it needs to be). There's always going to be a Chief of Content but whether that person always needs to be on Hex, or needs to be a permanent and separate officer, seems kind of negligible.
The truth of the matter is Hex fulfills a variety of roles and many double or triple-dip, like delicious chocolatey ice cream cones. Chief of Name Changing, anyone? I'll volunteer. But seriously, the roles Hex assume defy a stringent classification, and it's up to the Site Owner if there's any permanent positions, so the Constitution mandating it is rather frivolous.
Wouldn't it be easier just to say something to the effect of: "The Site Owner presides over the Hexagon Council, whose membership consists of a body of admins tasked with the managerial aspects of the site. The number of administrators is contingent upon the needs at the time and the classifications of job are fluctuating at the discretion of Hex. All Hex members designated as a central point of contact and manager of one of the many site organs should be duly listed in the requisite areas for communication purposes."
The End. Seems much easier and true to reality.
As an addendum, if we don't make such a change, do we ratify chiefs of branch? Because the Constitution presumes that we do, and to my knowledge I never got a ratification slip whenever a new CoM or CoC was appointed as a member of the branch. At the very least that section also needs to be removed, but I strongly suggest a wording more similar to what I provided above.
Last edited by Augustus Lucifer; July 26, 2009 at 04:01 PM.
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Against. I think we need a Chief of Moderation, and deputy, figurehead.
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
“The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”
—Sir William Francis Butler
The thing is... this proposal isn't changing the way it is. It doesn't matter if you prescribe permanent and non-permanent members, a CoM, whatever in the Constitution. The fact is that isn't how it works, so all we're deciding with this is whether we want the Constitution to reflect the actuality, or continue to wrongly represent it in this section. And before anyone comes with "The Constitution should dictate the actuality, not the actuality dictate the Constitution", I point out one of the opening sentences in the Constitution:
This is one of those outdated instances, which needs to be rectified. I recommend a change as I suggested above but I guess any change to make it more correct, if still somewhat wrong, is a good change.This document is not absolutely authoritative. It is a compilation of the Curia, written and approved by the citizens, which may become outdated or contain oversights.
House of Ward ~ Patron of Eothese, Mythic_Commodore, Wundai, & Saint Nicholas
Who are the Strats, I don;t even know beyond you, Ponti and Farnan.
I don't think having a figurehead would be a bad thing, whatever you want to call it. Call it CoM if you want. The only issue is that the administrative workload that strats have taken on since the position was abolished needs to stay evenly distributed. I don't think the CoM position should have been abolished, simply reworked in such a way that would more evenly distribute the work load.
Chim and Atterdag, though they're on vacation right now, jim was a strat but got hexed.
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The problem is two fold with it. First to keep strats from burning out it would need to be rotated around, which in and of itself would defeat the purpose, and second that I'm willing to be that whoever was in the position would probably try to do too much anyways and we'd end up back where we started.
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -----Albert Einstein
Well naturally whoever would be in charge would be prevented by a pro-active Senior team from doing too much in the first place.
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I don't think burnout would be a factor at all if we all participated to the extent we do now. A clear hierarchy would never be a bad thing, it is simply the need to delegate or other wise spread out the work load that would need to be accomplished for the position to work.
The most recent incarnation of the strat team and the way they run business IS great! I don't want anyone to think otherwise. I love the bond that the current situation creates between the strats to work as a team, one person taking PR, etc. It forces these separate folks to work as a unit to keep the mod team running efficiently. I just feel that having someone to help organize when people are on vacation for example or when a tough call comes up, or to help support them in Hex wouldn't be such a bad thing.
I'm not suggesting that we revert back to the old system where the CoM (or the CoM and co-CoM combo) were ripped of spirit when dealing with the public and the interpersonal matters of the moderation team. A go-between Hex and the strats and someone to help make the final call is a necessary person, call the position a CoM or the Magical Doughnut Man for all it matters.![]()
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