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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6723980.ece

    From The Times
    July 23, 2009
    Gallery’s invitation to deface the Bible brings obscene response
    Mike Wade

    A publicly funded exhibition is encouraging people to deface the Bible in the name of art — and visitors have responded with abuse and obscenity.

    The show includes a video of a woman ripping pages from the Bible and stuffing them into her bra, knickers and mouth.

    The open Bible is a central part of Made in God’s Image, an exhibition at the Gallery of Modern Art (Goma) in Glasgow. By the book is a container of pens and a notice saying: “If you feel you have been excluded from the Bible, please write your way back into it.”

    The exhibit, Untitled 2009, was proposed by the Metropolitan Community Church, which said that the idea was to reclaim the Bible as a sacred text. But to the horror of many Christians, including the community church, visitors have daubed its pages with comments such as “This is all sexist pish, so disregard it all.” A contributor wrote on the first page of Genesis: “I am Bi, Female & Proud. I want no god who is disappointed in this.”

    The Church of Scotland expressed concern, the Roman Catholic Church called the exhibit infantile, and a Christian lawyers’ group said that the exhibition was symptomatic of a broken and lawless society.

    The exhibition has been created by the artists Anthony Schrag and David Malone, in association with organisations representing gay Christians and Muslims. Mr Schrag, the gallery’s artist in residence, said that he did not believe in God, but that his research for the £7,000 show had underlined his respect for people of faith.

    The community church, which celebrates “racial, cultural, linguistic, sexual, gender and theological diversity”, had suggested the “interactive” Bible and pens and Mr Schrag, 34, said he had been intrigued.

    “Any offensive things that have been written are not the point of the work,” he said. “It was an open gesture. Are those who say they are upset offended by the things that people write, or just by the very notion that someone should write on a Bible?”

    The artist, a Canadian who took a master’s degree at Glasgow School of Art, said that human rights were at the centre of the show. “If we are to open up the Bible for discussion, surely we have to invite people to speak out,” he said. “Art allows us to discuss difficult things, and Goma allows difficult discussions to take place — that is why Glasgow is at the cutting edge of contemporary art.”

    Jane Clarke, a minister of the community church, said she regretted the insults that had appeared. “The Bible should never be used like that. It was our intention to reclaim it as a sacred text,” she said. While the exhibition’s supporters insist that the exhibit promotes “inclusivity” and should break down barriers between orthodox religion and gay and transgendered people, most contributors have paid scant regard to matters of sexuality.

    One writer has altered the first line of the Old Testament from “In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth” to “In the beginning, God (me) I created religion.” Another has written “The Gospel According to Luke Skywalker”. The main sentiment, however, is rage at Christianity. “ the Bible”, one message says.

    Last night the producers of the exhibition indicated that the most offensive pages would be removed, but Christians expressed outrage and disbelief that the show had been staged at all. “This is symbolic of the state of our broken and lawless society,” said Andrea Minichiello Williams, director of the Christian Legal Centre. “We have got to a point where we call the desecration of the Bible modern art. The Bible stands for everything this art does not: for creation, beauty, hope and regeneration.”

    The Church of Scotland said it condemned any sacrilegious act. “We would discourage anyone from defacing the Bible,” a Kirk spokesman said.

    A spokesman for the Catholic Church said: “One wonders whether the organisers would have been quite as willing to have the Koran defaced.”

    A video by Roxanne Claxton forms a second element in the exhibition. It shows a young woman ripping pages out of the Bible and stuffing them in her knickers and bra, and in her mouth. The film showed “the word as power”, Mr Schrag said. “Roxanne gave a performance where she ate a Bible and it became part of her.”

    Made in God’s Image is part of a series of exhibitions focusing on human rights organised by Culture and Sport Glasgow, part of the city council. The division’s chief executive is Dr Bridget McConnell, wife of the former Labour First Minister Jack McConnell.
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    Morons.

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    And the point is...?

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    This is beyond ing moronic.

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    Ah, maybe they should hang out with these guys:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    Ah, maybe they should hang out with these guys:

    "Where they burn books, they will burn people". Heinrich Heine , 1820 So simple and so true.- just found out.
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    Wow, not even I would write obscenities in the Bible.

    Maybe the artists were naive, or maybe the general public is less civilized than expected.



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    I eagerly await part II of this Exhibit, being the defacing of the Koran. What? No? Why ever not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    I eagerly await part II of this Exhibit, being the defacing of the Koran. What? No? Why ever not?
    I eagerly await part III of this Exhibit, being the defacing of the Torah. What? No? Why ever not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduet View Post
    I eagerly await part III of this Exhibit, being the defacing of the Torah. What? No? Why ever not?
    Yes I'm sure the exhibitors would be mortally afraid of terrorist plots and violence from Hassidic Jews if that occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    Yes I'm sure the exhibitors would be mortally afraid of terrorist plots and violence from Hassidic Jews if that occurred.
    nah they'll probably be shut down by one of the various Jewish groups that calls everything anti-semitic.

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    It may be worth to mention that Heinrich Heine who had been brought in by Stavrosforos was born as Harry Heine. Someone born as Jew defends the Koran. That should give to think under various aspects.

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    What happened to time when art was a painting, a statue etc that made people stop and gasp in awe or draw them into looking at it for long periods of times admiring its beauty. When did art stop becoming something to inspire with beauty, uniqueness, creativity and become a display of enraging people by childish acts? Yes its just a book and people have the right to do whatever but destruction of any book is imo offensive and the goal here seems to be nothing but to BE offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    nah they'll probably be shut down by one of the various Jewish groups that calls everything anti-semitic.
    Yeah those Jews sure go berserk whenever there is an anti-semitic cartoon in the Arab press. Riots, firebombs, carbombs, threats - just like when there was the Danish cartoons about Mohammed, but 100 times worse for sure.

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    It's free speech, but ing retarded and infantile...

    What's the point of defacing a 2 thousand year old book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Gothicus View Post
    It's free speech, but ing retarded and infantile...

    What's the point of defacing a 2 thousand year old book?
    The point is to teach mom and dad a lesson...
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    Pathetic. Simply Pathetic.
    Why would one feel a need to write obscenities in a Bible? If you disagree with it, thats fine, but this...? This is sick.
    Love to see them try it with any other holy book...


    What is almost more Pathetic is the Church that organized this... that is some seriously messed up church if they have strayed so far as to treat the Bible as a piece of art to be desecrated.
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    Islam has nothing to do with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    Islam has nothing to do with this.
    Except that:

    The exhibition has been created by the artists Anthony Schrag and David Malone, in association with organisations representing gay Christians and Muslims
    Interesting they chose one particular book to deface, and not another book.

    The same leftist shills that will applaud defacing the Bible, would be out hitting the pavement if it was the Koran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    Except that:



    Interesting they chose one particular book to deface, and not another book.

    The same leftist shills that will applaud defacing the Bible, would be out hitting the pavement if it was the Koran.
    maybe because:

    The exhibit, Untitled 2009, was proposed by the Metropolitan Community Church, which said that the idea was to reclaim the Bible as a sacred text.
    My guess is they only included a few Muslims into the equation to hide the fact that this is a government payed christian Church project.



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