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    Ebusitanus's Avatar Senator
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    Default You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    Maybe it's me - I don't always savvy the New Math - but it seems to me that the idea here is that if you give a test and more "people of color" fail it than do white men, that alone is proof positive that the test is "discriminatory". No further case needs to be made.

    I mean, we're all equal now.... right? That's a scientific fact

    FDNY written exams excluded hundreds of black and Hispanic firefighters, federal judge rules
    BY John Marzulli
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    Wednesday, July 22nd 2009

    The city used written exams that "unfairly excluded hundreds of qualified people of color" from serving as firefighters, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

    The historic decision could recast the racial makeup of the predominantly white city Fire Department and cost taxpayers $20 million.

    Brooklyn Federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis said the Justice Department and a group of black firefighters have proved, without the need for a trial, that the city discriminated against blacks and Hispanics on two exams from 1999 to 2007.

    Black and Hispanic applicants failed the two exams in disproportionate numbers to whites.

    "These unlawful practices barred over a thousand additional black and Hispanic applicants from consideration for appointment as FDNY firefighters," the judge wrote in his 93-page decision, "and unfairly delayed the appointment of hundreds of black and Hispanic firefighters."

    "These examinations ... closed the doors of opportunity for public service to large segments of the city's population."

    When the feds filed suit against the city in 2007, there were just 303 black firefighters and 605 Hispanics in a force of 8,998, according to court papers. The two exams which discriminated against minorities are no longer used by the FDNY.

    "It's a huge victory," said lawyer Dana Lossia who represents the Vulcan Society, the organization of black firefighters that sued the city. "The next step will be figuring out the remedy."

    The plaintiffs are seeking the hiring and back pay for hundreds of prospective firefighters, a move that could cost the city an estimated $20 million, as well as retroactive seniority for the minorities.

    Any settlement would also likely include some form of federal oversight of the FDNY's hiring process.

    The blacks and Hispanics who did pass the tossed exams were placed lower on the hiring list due to their scores.

    A spokeswoman for the Law Department said the city will consider its options to appeal once a remedy is decided.

    In March, the judge took a shot at Mayor Bloomberg's tough-guy response to the lawsuit when he puffed, "We'll see 'em in court."

    "I assume [the statement] was made without consulting with counsel," Garaufis said.

    jmarzulli@nydailynews.com
    Read a napoleonic first hand account of a Hessian serving under the french flag

    Athenians: For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses - either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed;.......... since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.

    Part of the Melian Dialogue in The History of the Pelopenessian War by Thucydides.

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    Good now apply this to the NBA, more short, fat white guys demand the right to be playing basketball!

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Good now apply this to the NBA, more short, fat white guys demand the right to be playing basketball!


    Don't forget the 100 and 200 meter sprinting. The standards are discriminatory, for they require the athletes to run fast!

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    I shall not write a nasty racial stereotype.
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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    How can a test discriminate against minorities?

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    The urge to type up some stupid joke here is very, very strong.

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    Heh, New York city utterly deserves itself in this instance. Shame it was only 20 million.

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    Default Re: You Failed the Test? NO!...The Test Failed you!

    This is why the lawyers will be hung first when then revolution comes.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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