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    This cat may look like it's sleeping but may actually be planning new ways to exploit humans

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...-food-research

    For those with a deep suspicion of cats and their motivations, this may well be the scientific proof they have been waiting for. New research has finally laid bare the degree to which cats exploit humans.

    Instead of loud miaowing when they want food, behaviour likely to have them ejected from the bedroom, some cats disguise their cries for attention within an otherwise pleasant purr. The result, according to a study published tonight in the journal Current Biology, is a complex "solicitation" purr with a high-frequency element that triggers a sense of urgency in the human brain. Owners find it irritating, but not irritating enough to kick the cat out, and feel driven to respond.

    Dr Karen McComb, a specialist in mammal vocal communication at the University of Sussex, said that by employing an embedded cry, cats appear to be exploiting innate tendencies that humans have for nurturing offspring.

    "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response – and solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing," she said.

    McComb, whose usual subjects include African elephants and lions in the wild, began the research into domestic cats after noticing the "manipulative" purring of her own cat, Pepo. "I wondered why this purring sounded so annoying and was so difficult to ignore," she said. "Talking with other cat owners, I found that some of them also had cats which showed similar behaviour."

    After testing human responses to different purring types, McComb and her team found that even those with no experience of cats judged the "solicitation" purr to be more urgent and less pleasant.

    On examining the frequency of the special purr, she found a peak similar to that of a baby's cry, which gave it a "noisy, slightly whiny quality".

    However, not all cats have the cry; the researchers, who examined 10 cats, found it only in those living in single-person households. "We found that cats learn to dramatically emphasise the peak when dealing with human owners that have a one-on-one relationship," McComb said.

    Asked whether the cat's special purr is more effective than a dog's bark, or other demand for food, she said: "I think it might be more effective than a dog. If you ask people who own cats what they do when they get up they say they feed their cats. Even before they have a cup of coffee. Cats are very good at getting their own way."
    Behavior is presumably genetic. Cats which make this noise will be more likely to be kept as pets by humans, and will pass the trait to future generations of domestic cats.
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    Those evil cuddly bastards!
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    Cats are harmless.

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    Another reason why dogs are better then cats, with a dog you get real affection, cats just want your food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Another reason why dogs are better then cats, with a dog you get real affection, cats just want your food.
    Lies.

    Cat > Dog on so many levels.

    You don't have to walk a cat.
    You don't have to carry a poop bag for said cat.
    You don't have to give your cat a bath.
    You don't have to hurry home to let out the cat.
    When your cat sleeps on your bed it doesn't smell like dog.
    Cats don't drool.
    Cats get rid of household pests.
    You never have to take a cat to the groomer.
    If a cat likes you, you know you are cool, if a dog likes you it just thinks you are another idiot pack member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Lies.

    Cat > Dog on so many levels.

    You don't have to walk a cat.
    You don't have to carry a poop bag for said cat.
    You don't have to give your cat a bath.
    You don't have to hurry home to let out the cat.
    When your cat sleeps on your bed it doesn't smell like dog.
    Cats don't drool.
    Cats get rid of household pests.
    You never have to take a cat to the groomer.
    If a cat likes you, you know you are cool, if a dog likes you it just thinks you are another idiot pack member.
    BLASPHEMY!
    Walking your dog is fun and helps you stay fit, dogs don't make your house smell like crap and don't take said crap in a box. (Gross) Not all dogs need baths (like Huskies), not all digs drool profusely and not all dogs have an odor (a Husky being a prime example). Dogs also take care of household pests, on numerous occasions my dog has killed a squirrel or mouse. Once he even put a mouse in his water bowel for the Lulz. Will a cat stay by your side if injured or lost? I think not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    BLASPHEMY!
    Walking your dog is fun and helps you stay fit, dogs don't make your house smell like crap and don't take said crap in a box. (Gross) Not all dogs need baths (like Huskies), not all digs drool profusely and not all dogs have an odor (a Husky being a prime example). Dogs also take care of household pests, on numerous occasions my dog has killed a squirrel or mouse. Once he even put a mouse in his water bowel for the Lulz. Will a cat stay by your side if injured or lost? I think not!
    seconded and qft.
    Dogs are much better, and Huskies are the best.
    Since I got my pet husky 4 years ago, I've been in better shape then ever. + they're loads of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman_Wolf View Post
    seconded and qft.
    Dogs are much better, and Huskies are the best.
    Since I got my pet husky 4 years ago, I've been in better shape then ever. + they're loads of fun.
    Huzzah! More Husky fans! I've lost 20 pounds since I got Zoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    If a cat likes you, you know you are cool, if a dog likes you it just thinks you are another idiot pack member.
    You gather self-esteem from whether or not cats like you?
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    Default Re: Sound effect: how cats exploit the human need to nurture

    The interesting thing with the cat is it straddles the line of adaptation to humans and being able to survive in the wild. Alot of other pets become overly adapted to being a pet and don't cope well if their owner dies.

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    Default Re: Sound effect: how cats exploit the human need to nurture

    Cats exploit deers need to nurture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit View Post
    You gather self-esteem from whether or not cats like you?
    Its simply an indication.

    Two attractive women sharing your bed, restaurants reserving a table for you just in case you come in, cats liking you. Its all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Lies.

    Cat > Dog on so many levels.

    You don't have to walk a cat.
    You don't have to carry a poop bag for said cat.
    You don't have to give your cat a bath.
    You don't have to hurry home to let out the cat.
    When your cat sleeps on your bed it doesn't smell like dog.
    Cats don't drool.
    Cats get rid of household pests.
    You never have to take a cat to the groomer.
    If a cat likes you, you know you are cool, if a dog likes you it just thinks you are another idiot pack member.
    dogs stop intruders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    Another reason why dogs are better then cats, with a dog you get real affection, cats just want your food.
    I used to board at this place where the owner's cat would just seek my company all the time, even though I wasn't feeding it. When I studied, it'd skulk around my legs. When I slept, it'd sit itself on my chest. At times, I sought some privacy by shutting the door, but it figured out how to jump up, pull the handle down, and push forward, so as to open it. I mostly found it charming though.

    It might just be me and cats though. When I was staying at another place, when I was outside and stationary for any length of time, the neighbour's cat would habitually perch itself on my shoulder. A bit like Long John Silver, except it's a cat rather than a parrot on my shoulder.

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    This is just going to be another cat vs dog thread (cats win btw )

    I still know how my ex cat, whenever she caught a mouse, would miauw like crazy so i had to come watch how she was chasing and eating her mouse, if i wasn't there she wouldn't do it.

    Gross but it's the thought that counts

    Dog's are like: woof woof cooky cooky feed me feed me woof.

    cat's are like: miauw yo dude let me sleep i can take care of my own miauw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAD1337
    People aren't more/less likely to keep a cat depending on how it cries for food. This isn't the wild where the cats that don't purr right die off or something.
    You're missing their evolutionary trajectory through human natural history, bro. Give cats a few thousand generations to endear themselves to humans, and it is inevitable that they'd be selected for qualities that maximize their share of table scraps. Why do you think feral domestic cats look so scraggly and have such short life expectancies? Even the cute ones usually have a vicious, anti-human streak that precludes bonding and reduces their rates of reproductive success.

    Quote Originally Posted by cupoftea View Post
    Dog's are like: woof woof cooky cooky feed me feed me woof.

    cat's are like: miauw yo dude let me sleep i can take care of my own miauw.
    For me it's the exact opposite. I'm welcomed home everyday to a chorus of beotchy, demanding meows, hungry for their evening fix. If I ignore it too long, they follow me around and knock stuff off my tables. My dog (Rhodesian Ridgeback) is pretty much silent about everything and couldn't care less about food, unless it's a treat and I make a big deal about it. He sleeps at least as much as the cats!

    I always thought I was a cat person, until I realized recently that all the crappy dogs in the world are the result of crappy owners. I've kept all kinds of pets, but there's nothing comparable to raising and training a canine companion. I still like my cats, but my dog is the best.

    Cats are great if you cannot devote much attention to your pets, but if you can invest the time and energy then dogs can be way more rewarding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamaeleo View Post
    Cats are great if you cannot devote much attention to your pets, but if you can invest the time and energy then dogs can be way more rewarding!
    Cats can be great too but you have to devote even more time to them, though because they are not pack animals and territorial I guess you can never get them to do cool tricks in public places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    I used to board at this place where the owner's cat would just seek my company all the time, even though I wasn't feeding it. When I studied, it'd skulk around my legs. When I slept, it'd sit itself on my chest. At times, I sought some privacy by shutting the door, but it figured out how to jump up, pull the handle down, and push forward, so as to open it. I mostly found it charming though.

    It might just be me and cats though. When I was staying at another place, when I was outside and stationary for any length of time, the neighbour's cat would habitually perch itself on my shoulder. A bit like Long John Silver, except it's a cat rather than a parrot on my shoulder.
    haha my cat sits on my shoulder all the time. i feel like i have a very furry parrot with a tail.

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    dogs stop intruders
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    also dogs you have to train them from birth for them to be a 'good dog' and i dont feel like hitting my dog just because she bites my hand. Although ive never trained my dog but shes perfectly fine around me. Yet when someone else is around her she tends to jump up on them in joy
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    twelve cats will still stink up your house.

    I think having both is the purrfect compromise.

    yes, I went there.

    It makes sense though and I think I've totally been taken advantage of by my old cat, when I used to have her. This cat yesterday at a friend's just sat there, wriggling around on the floor acting cute so we'd pet it. Evil connivers!

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    The OP is simply canine propaganda.
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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