Problem with character names

**margio** · July 24, 2009, 09:29 AM

Hello Aradan,
I am trying to add historical names to Sparta Total War mod, and even reading your tutorial (not so carefully due to issues...) I got the following error message:
scritp error in C:\..descr_strat\linexxx, columnxx: unable to find Dionysus II The Younger's character records
For sure I made a mistake, but I cannot find where...
in names.txt = on left {Dionysus_II} on right Dionysus II The Younger
in descr_names.txt = characters is Dionysus surname is II The Younger
in descr_strat.txt is Dionysus II The Younger as heir and in the relative lines

Where is/are the mistakes?

**Aradan** · July 24, 2009, 10:12 AM

Can you please post here (wrapped in [code] tags) the relevant names, descr_names and descr_strat entries? Then I'll move those posts in their own thread. It's probably a descr_strat error.

**margio** · July 24, 2009, 03:09 PM

Thanks Aradan for reply! Do you mean these?
I have added Dionysus I The Elder, as they appear in the three files

descr_names.txt
faction: romans_brutii
characters
Dionysus
...
...
...
surnames
I The Elder
II The Younger
...
...

names.txt
{Dionysus_I} Dionysus II The Elder
{Dionysus_II} Dionysus II The Younger

descr_strat.txt
;Syracuse
character Dionysus I The Elder, named character, leader, age 52, , x 106, y 44
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries drillmaster

;near Syracuse
character Dionysus II The Younger, named character, heir, age 34, , x 106, y 45
...
...
relative Dionysus I The Elder, Galla, Dionysus II The Younger, Agathocles, Hicetas, end
relative Dionysus II The Younger, Hostia, Paulina, Dion, Timoleon, end

Thanks for the help

!

**Aradan** · July 24, 2009, 04:36 PM

Yeah, but please
a) use [code][/code] instead of [quote][/quote]
b) don't omit lines you think they are unnecessary (family tree lines, character-record lines, etc), they might give you the answer.

Anyway, here are some errors I can see:

descr_names.txt

Code:

[...]
Dionysus


[...]
I_the_Elder
II_the_Younger

names.txt

Code:

{Dionysus}            Dionysus
{I_the_Elder}            I The Elder
{II_the_Younger}            II The Younger

descr_strat:

Code:

character Dionysus I_the_Elder, named character, leader, age 52, , x 106, y 44
character Dionysus II_the_Younger, named character, heir, age 34, , x 106, y 45

**margio** · July 25, 2009, 04:13 PM

Hi Aradan,

I copied exactly your lines in the three files,
descr_names.txt

Code:

characters
Dionysus
...
surnames
I_the_Elder
II_the_Younger
...

names.txt

Code:

{Dionysus}         Dionysus
{I_the_Elder}      I The Elder
{II_the_Younger}   II The Younger

descr_strat.txt

Code:

character Dionysus I_the_Elder, named character, leader, age 52, , x 106, y 44
character Dionysus II_the_Younger, named character, heir, age 34, , x 106, y 45
...
relative  Dionysus I_the_Elder, Galla, Dionysus II_the_Younger, Agathocles, Hicetas, end
relative  Dionysus II_the_Younger, Hostia, Paulina, Dion, Timoleon, end

but I got this message
Script Error SPARTA/../descr_strat.tx at line 717, column 14
couldn't find Dionysus II_the_Younger's character_record

I've tried in descr_strat.txt on relative lines all Dionysus with and without underscores, but I got the same message...

**Aradan** · July 26, 2009, 04:56 AM

Ugh, my bad. I forgot that surnames in RTW are passed down from father to son, so the II gu would still get his father's surname, ie the "I" one. What you need to do is:

a) create a unique trait, without a trigger
b) give this trait to the II Dionysus in descr_strat (it will be used as a 'flag')
c) create another trait, to which you should assign an epithet (see how it's done in vanilla). The epithet of that trait should be the son's surname
d) Make a trigger for the second trait, that gives it to characters who have the first one

Example:

export_descr_character_traits.txt

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait DionysusIIFlag
 Characters family
 
 Level DionysusIIFlag
  Description DionysusIIFlag_desc
  EffectsDescription DionysusIIFlag_effects_desc
  Threshold  1
        
;------------------------------------------
 
;------------------------------------------
Trait DionysusII
 Characters family
 
 Level DionysusII
  Description DionysusII_desc
  EffectsDescription DionysusII_effects_desc
  Epithet DionysusII_epithet_desc
  Threshold  1
        
;------------------------------------------
 
---
 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger dionysusII_trigger
 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
 
 Condition Trait DionysusIIFlag > 0
    and Trait DionysusII < 1
 
 Affects DionysusII  1  Chance  100
;------------------------------------------

text/export_VnVs.txt

Code:

¬--------------------
{DionysusII} Dionysus II the Younger
{DionysusII_desc} This man is Dionysus the II, the son of Dionysus I the Elder.
{DionysusII_effects_desc} No effects
{DionysusII_epithet_desc} II the Younger
¬--------------------

The red part is the one the epithet, which will replace your character's surname after the first turn (which will be his father's surname, I the Elder at first).

If you don't want to do that, you can always do the reverse. Use this trick for Dionysus the Elder, and start the son with a proper surname.

Or, third option, turn both surnames into epithets, with a unique trait and flag-trait each, so that nobody else has them...

**margio** · July 26, 2009, 04:18 PM

Hi Aradan,
I followed your suggestions, adding the lines of your examples into the proper files, but I got an error message.
I’m sorry to ask your help again, but I probably didn’t understand (and followed exactly

…) what you wrote from a) to d) point. For this matter I am, as we said here where I live, as a “woodden head”… I don’t know if same way to say exist in english (or in your language), but it means someone that is “hard” to understand

…
OK… back to matter…
1) I added, exactly as written, the lines of your examples into export_descr_character_traits.txt and export_VnVs.txt at the end of both files.
BTW I didn’t understand also the meanings of the three lines (“---“) written in export_descr_character_traits.txt in your example...
2) I added DionysusIIFlag (and DionysusII only too) as first trait for Dionysus II into descr_strat.txt
I got the following message:
Script Error in SPARTA\data\ export_descr_character_traits.txt at line 10075, column 18
Trait not recognised
NOTE: the line correspond to Condition Trait DionysusIIFlag > 0

I also used (just as a trial) TraitDescrValidator (by RedFox), and I got the following message:
line 10053, no description for: 'DionysusIIFlag'
NOTE: the line correspond to Level DionysusIIFlag

Where is “woodden head’s” mistake

…?

**Aradan** · July 26, 2009, 04:38 PM

Because someone forgot to tell you that you also need an eVnVs.txt entry for the Flag trait...

Here it goes:

Code:

¬--------------------
{DionysusIIFlag} DionysusII Flag Trait
{DionysusIIFlag_desc} This man is Dionysus the II
{DionysusIIFlag_effects_desc} No effects
¬--------------------

You would also want to make the flag-trait invisible by adding this line:

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait DionysusIIFlag
 Characters family
 Hidden
 
 Level DionysusIIFlag
  Description DionysusIIFlag_desc
  EffectsDescription DionysusIIFlag_effects_desc
  Threshold  1
        
;------------------------------------------

**Killerbee** · July 26, 2009, 05:05 PM

I like the way you greeted margio :

Originally Posted by margio

Hello Aradan,

It's nice ^^

**margio** · July 27, 2009, 12:43 PM

Aradan... me again

...
I followed your instructions, adding what written in your example, but I get the same message error...
Here the two files

export_VnVs.txt

Code:

¬--------------------
 
{DionysusIIFlag} DionysusII Flag Trait
 
{DionysusIIFlag_desc} This man is Dionysus the II
 
{DionysusIIFlag_effects_desc} No effects
 
¬--------------------
 
{DionysusII} Dionysus II the Younger
 
{DionysusII_desc} This man is Dionysus the II, the son of Dionysus I the Elder.
 
{DionysusII_effects_desc} No effects
 
{DionysusII_epithet_desc} II the Younger
 
¬--------------------

export_descr_character_traits.txt

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait DionysusIIFlag
Characters family
Hidden
 
Level DionysusIIFlag
 Description DionysusIIFlag_desc
 EffectsDescription DionysusIIFlag_effects_desc
 Threshold  1
 
;------------------------------------------
Trait DionysusII
Characters family
 
Level DionysusII
 Description DionysusII_desc
 EffectsDescription DionysusII_effects_desc
 Epithet DionysusII_epithet_desc
 Threshold  1
;------------------------------------------
 
---
 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger dionysusII_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
 
Condition Trait DionysusIIFlag > 0
   and Trait DionysusII < 1
 
Affects DionysusII  1  Chance  100
 
;------------------------------------------

Once selected faction and selected the arrow in left lower corner, I am rejected to the menu of choices between Prologue, Imperial Campaign, Custom Battles, etc... when exiting appear the following:
Script Error in SPARTA\data\ export_descr_character_traits.txt at line 10075, column 18
Trait not recognised
The line 10075 is Condition Trait DionysusIIFlag > 0

I feel it's becoming a nightmare... maybe I'm becoming

...

**Aradan** · July 28, 2009, 07:17 AM

Can you maybe upload here your text files?

**margio** · July 28, 2009, 07:53 AM

Yes of course!!!
Just for your reference:
* the faction of the Dionysus is romans_brutii
* you will find the same matter (in terms of leaders & heirs names) for others factions (as parthia, armenia, carthage, …), but I think that once solved for romans_brutii, it will be possible to solve for the others factions…
* the idea is to give to Sparta TW mod the historical names of leaders and heirs when the mod start (380BC), creating even and possibly the dinasty of each faction… but I think that more than two names it is not possible. BTW it would be a great issue to have two…

A BIG THANK for help

!!!