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    Default Why is it that God is only accredited for the good things?

    This is a real pet peeve of mine.

    Why is it that when I get 100% on a test, God has "Blessed" my hand and helped me on my road to success. But when I fail a test, it's my own stupid fault for not studying?

    To a more drastic situation:

    Why is it that when starving kids in Ethiopia strike oil and become rich, God granted them with it. But when a train is bombed and 100 people die, it's reckless humans that are responsible and to blame?

    If God controls all things, why isn't he accredited for the bad things too?

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    Default Re: Why is it that God is only accredited for the good things?

    cognitive dissonance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ¿Ü╩ ø¹§.ý View Post
    This is a real pet peeve of mine.

    Why is it that when I get 100% on a test, God has "Blessed" my hand and helped me on my road to success. But when I fail a test, it's my own stupid fault for not studying?

    To a more drastic situation:

    Why is it that when starving kids in Ethiopia strike oil and become rich, God granted them with it. But when a train is bombed and 100 people die, it's reckless humans that are responsible and to blame?

    If God controls all things, why isn't he accredited for the bad things too?
    It's called self-deception.

    Most religions are idiotic more than enough, so people need to convince themselves that their god is good, with stupid like this. Religions brainwash people to think nothing, but good of their god.. Oh, that reminds me of good ol' propaganda that all the beloved dictators have done ever since the first steps of mankind.

    If you made up a god, of course, you would make him so "intelligent" that you could explain all his random acts and idiocy, with a simple sentence like "God is beyond our comprehension" and stuff like that. Of course, you would credit him of everything good and make up an evil alter-ego for him, so you could throw all the blame of bad stuff on that alter ego.

    What kind of god would a man would make up, if he wanted to make the god do anything, without making people hate it? That would be an impossible god.

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    Default Re: Why is it that God is only accredited for the good things?

    If there's a guy in the sky as powerful as God would be, would you really want to criticise him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_C_1 View Post
    If there's a guy in the sky as powerful as God would be, would you really want to criticise him?
    Yea, if it's an as*hole god like most gods are, it deserves no praise.

    Maybe I wouldn't criticise him. Maybe I'd praise him out of fear, but I would know deep within me, that he doesn't deserve to exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeger View Post
    Yea, if it's an as*hole god like most gods are, it deserves no praise.

    Maybe I wouldn't criticise him. Maybe I'd praise him out of fear, but I would know deep within me, that he doesn't deserve to exist.
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    So it's an all powerful being that has an ego.

    Why worship such a being, it clearly isn't superior to you.
    FFS lads are those answers serious enough for you?

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    I'd go up there and kick his divine ass, I'm no coward. But I'm also no bird, so I'd need some transport
    That's more like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_C_1 View Post
    If there's a guy in the sky as powerful as God would be, would you really want to criticise him?
    So it's an all powerful being that has an ego.

    Why worship such a being, it clearly isn't superior to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cúchulainn View Post
    So it's an all powerful being that has an ego.

    Why worship such a being, it clearly isn't superior to you.
    Do you think that all things with egos are equal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88MPH View Post
    Do you think that all things with egos are equal?
    No but a god shouldn't fall victim to human characteristics like ego or jealousy or anger.

    If it does, it's not superior, why worship it.

    If you can refrain for anger, jealousy or ego than you are superior to god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cúchulainn View Post
    No but a god shouldn't fall victim to human characteristics like ego or jealousy or anger.

    If it does, it's not superior, why worship it.

    If you can refrain for anger, jealousy or ego than you are superior to god.
    I bet God will disagree. I think He thinks he can be jealous or angry or whatever else he likes and still be perfect in His own eyes (which, btw, are the only ones that count).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_C_1 View Post
    If there's a guy in the sky as powerful as God would be, would you really want to criticise him?
    I'd go up there and kick his divine ass, I'm no coward. But I'm also no bird, so I'd need some transport

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    Default Re: Why is it that God is only accredited for the good things?

    Typically the Theist will reply with something like God has a plan. The train blowing up with 100 deaths is all part of the plan and serves a greater cause - of course, what exactly this plan is, is another story alltogether.
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    Perhaps it adds to a long chain of misery that will eventually come to a conclusion...people seem to forget cause and effect.
    So if he is an all powerful diety with an ego...then who cares...It's actually kind of cool to think about.
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    Erm one tiny point that maybe noone will agree with, but how can you fall victim to a valuable part of being human?

    I see anger get a bad press quite often but to me it seems only through ignorance that this can be the case.

    The question is whether or not you act a fool when you're angry, just as it is with love and other emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ¿Ü╩ ø¹§.ý View Post
    If God controls all things, why isn't he accredited for the bad things too?
    Well, Zoroastrianism and (to a much lesser extent) Christianity have a powerful being (or deity, in Zoroastrianism's case) that causes evil and horrors. So that usually takes care of it for them. Though, Christianity also has the "it's helping you in a roundabout, half-assed sorta way; any sufficiently advanced benevolence can be mistaken for malevolence" thing.
    Judaism's god is more or less explicitly stated to be a dick, so that usually covers it for them.
    Islam has...well, to be honest, I have no idea; same for Sikhism and Baha'i. Deism's god is explicitly held to be lazy except when he feels like it; same with Unitarian Universalism.

    So, that about covers it for the faiths where your question applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ¿Ü╩ ø¹§.ý View Post
    This is a real pet peeve of mine.

    But when I fail a test, it's my own stupid fault for not studying?
    yes. If you don't take any effort why should God help you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ¿Ü╩ ø¹§.ý View Post
    To a more drastic situation:

    Why is it that when starving kids in Ethiopia strike oil and become rich, God granted them with it. But when a train is bombed and 100 people die, it's reckless humans that are responsible and to blame?
    Well I doubt that God would want 100 innocent people death and you can't blame one entity for doing bad when all that it wants is peacy and love. Doesn't make to many sense at all.

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    If you don't take any effort why should God help you?
    But the point he is making is that why is it then that if he passes his test people will say God helped him.

    Well I doubt that God would want 100 innocent people death and you can't blame one entity for doing bad when all that it wants is peacy and love. Doesn't make to many sense at all.
    You're not really responding to his point there. He's asking why would the discovery of oil be credited to God, but the explosion/crashing of a train resulting in 100 deaths not be credited to God?
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    yet more holes in the theist's argument
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    Because he can be only good...

    There is no other option...

    For is he trully is god, then his actions can be no other, for he shall see either the relativity of the universe, and thusly shall be incappable of either good nor evil, except by his onw definitions, which shall be those of a god, and shall be universal. Or he knows of the blakc and white, and sees god and evil for what they trully are, in which case we need not worry, for he knows of good, and for us to claim to know it is foolish, only he shall know it...

    Basically to sum it up:

    What may be evil to us, may be good to a god...

    I wanna lie, lie to myself, myself and someone else. Cause it’s the lying that hurts, and it’s the hurt that lets me know I’m alive.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippolord View Post
    Because he can be only good...

    There is no other option...

    For is he trully is god, then his actions can be no other, for he shall see either the relativity of the universe, and thusly shall be incappable of either good nor evil, except by his onw definitions, which shall be those of a god, and shall be universal. Or he knows of the blakc and white, and sees god and evil for what they trully are, in which case we need not worry, for he knows of good, and for us to claim to know it is foolish, only he shall know it...

    Basically to sum it up:

    What may be evil to us, may be good to a god..
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    ....and that is would make him a bad god for us.

    How can a god who is in our eyes, completely evil, be a good for us? It doesn't matter what is good and evil in the eyes of god. If it sucks for us, that makes, the god, bad god for us.


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