[FAILED 08/01/09] [Citizen] Nazgûl Killer (Patron:Pøntifex)

[Pontifex Maximus]

Client: Nazgûl Killer

Why do I think I deserve citizenship? Well, I must say, without bragging or trying to sound pretentious, I believe I am a very level headed, and cool headed, member of this community, I am extremely social and take pride in that, I can make and take jokes when needed and be serious when needed.
I have always appreciated the work done here in TWCenter and not once have I complained about it, quite the opposite, I wanted to join the working team for quite a while now, and I have shown a great interest in citizenship so I can find out how I can help more.

I have renewed vigor and interest in the Political Mudpit and in the Ethos, Mores, et Monastica thread, I reply there and regularly check it out for more subjects to reply on.
I have also opened 3 threads (2 of them quite old) which have grown into meaningful discussions and I must say I have learned much from these and I regularly check the active ones:
Mixing Up Islam and Islamic Extremists
Israeli - Arab Nations Relations (Peace Treaty?)
Iran Needs Help!
Whilst the first two were far less active (On my part) than the latter, I believe the latter shows my cool minded methods of starting a debate and continuing it, and I must say that the results speak for themselves. The Israeli - Arab Relations thread was the single most calm debate I have seen in the Mudpit, and I take pride in that I started and handeled it.

I have recently joined the Critic's Quill as an intern (My first publication: The Critic's Quill Volume I Edition VI - My second publication: The Critic's Quill Volume I Edition VII)and I have also recently joined the Eagle Standard's main as an intern, I am supposed to receive my first few assignments shortly.
I have already submitted an article to the Eagle Standard's editor, B. Ward and he said that he finds nothing wrong with the article and that he will probably post it in the next edition, much to my delight.
I was also a writer for The Playwright and soon afterwards, the Editor, but for personal reasons I had to leave, however, since I love writing and wanted to continue, I asked for Fergusmck for an internship in the Critic's Quill, he agreed.

Also, I have joined a publication known as the Silver Shield and recently posted a very long piece there along with a review (Silver Shield 2nd Edition) and I enjoy working there very much with a very supporting environment.
I have recently started working on my pieces for the Silver Shield's 3rd edition and the Critic's Quill 8th edition, both should publicize soon enough.

A New Place To Call Home is an AAR I started, about two months ago, has turned out to be a whopping success. Even though it lacked in pictures due to technical difficulties on my part, many loved it. I have also finished this AAR in an air I am happy about. This AAR shows my writing skills to their full extent, these are the stories I love writing, and any job with writing here on TWCenter is something I want, and have been looking for, for quite a while now.

M2TW Faction Guideis a guide I recently published in order to help fellow Medieval 2 Total War fans that are having trouble with the game, this guide has grown beyond all expectations and is now one of the biggest Medieval 2 Total War guides out there, it supplies detailed information of the factions and how I see them, several new guides and I keep adding to it as time goes by.

I have recently won two Tale of the Week contests, with the stories "You Old Coot" and "The Blade". I must admit, winning twice against names such as Juvenal, Theodotos and sometimes Molls is quite an honor, it has not been once that I got second or third place, but 'facing off' against such gifted writers and winning twice, to me, shows great potential and gives me a lot of motivation to continue writing where-ever I can, a good example to that might just be my 2009 Scriptorium Writing Competition story: "My Prince".

I comment and help people very frequently in the Medieval 2 Total War General Discussion forum and subforum, I review AARs and I accept constructive criticism with open arms, I have not once heard a bad review of my reviews and I make sure people do understand I do not mean to offend them in what-ever review I make, I have also been said to be a great political poster in many reputation points given to me by people in the Discussion and Debate section, I display my arguments cool-headedly and do not result to insults or anything of the sort.

In addition, I have not once received a bad review of my AAR reviewing skills or writing skills, I accept constructive criticism with much delight as it could do nothing but help me, but I've never received a negative review.

Also, I have become a Librarian since around the end of May and I really enjoy it, I like doing that sort of things in TWC, and I have also received quite a positive feedback from my fellow Librarians.

I thank you for your time, everyone, and I hope you will appoint me a citizen.
With much thanks.
Nazgûl Killer

Patron: Pøntifex

Where to begin? Nazgul Killer is one of those that has his finger in everyone's pie. As a contributor, he is full of energy and enthusiasm. He is easy to get along with and work with. His contributions as outlined above, although many of them only two or three months old, demonstrate his drive. Last month he joined us in the scriptorium and is off to a good start. He has submitted several articles, offered aid when it was asked for, and been a pleasure to work with. He has accomplished much already and has helped to shape up the newest publications of the site. His input and contribution are critical to the survival of these publications.

[Viking Prince]

No more need be said. A most excellant candidate.

[Astaroth]

He has contributed a lot in various areas of the site and deserves the rank in my opinion. I'll be voting yes.

[Каие]

Ja from me.

[Dayman]

Seems like a decent candidate

[Soulghast]

His contributions seem decent enough, but the fact that he had to spam everyone's profiles in order to brag when he became a Librarian ticked me off.

[Pontifex Maximus]

His contributions seem decent enough, but the fact that he had to spam everyone's profiles in order to brag when he became a Librarian ticked me off.

I wasn't too impressed with that myself. I had a word with him about it.

[Каие]

I wasn't too impressed with that myself. I had a word with him about it.

Yeah I just remembered this too.

I question the attitude and motives now. Someone who wants the red to rub in someone else's face, isn't someone who really wants the red.

[y2day]

He is on the SS team and shows he wants to contribute and has done a good job so far. Will have to look at his other contributions.

[B. Ward]

Too early?

[Viking Prince]

That was youthful enthusiasm. I am an old fart. Enthusiasm needs to be controlled, but it is good. If that is a demerit worth noting, perhaps we are looking too hard for a reason to deny the application.

[B. Ward]

I have nothing against enthusiasm towards anyone wanted to join any capacity on the site to make it better and help out to do their part. Enthusiasm is what keeps everything going. What I don't like is comments like this:

Nah, Molls, you're just upset you never made it to red, and by the way, you're blue also, so don't act superior, you're not.
I'm about a month away from being red, so hush hush

and

Whyyyy would they want to make you red?...

Because I'm worthy.
You'll know once it's done. In July.

Trust me, I'm not looking for a hard reason to deny the application. Me going out of my way to make sure someone doesn't acquire citizenship does nothing for me...at all. Now me personally, I want to be able to say yes to everyone that comes across here without any question. I want to feel that if someone is put before the CdeC that the citizen patronizing them knows without a shadow of a doubt that their client is a definite shoe in. Also, I've also always had a big issue with people thinking that you can just jump on one of the content areas for like a month or two and think that's a definite gateway to becoming a citizen. It's more than just that for me. I need to see more of a commitment than some 2 or 3 months working.

[y2day]

Now me personally, I want to be able to say yes to everyone that comes across here without any question. I want to feel that if someone is put before the CdeC that the citizen patronizing them knows without a shadow of a doubt that their client is a definite shoe in. Also, I've also always had a big issue with people thinking that you can just jump on one of the content areas for like a month or two and think that's a definite gateway to becoming a citizen. It's more than just that for me. I need to see more of a commitment than some 2 or 3 months working.

Agree with the above. The joining up with content for a few months then expecting citizenship is a problem. Citizenship should be an award not a goal so to speak. If more people looked at it that way I think we all would be better off. I see some that are currently trying to do all they can but I feel it is for the wrong reasons. NK is a good guy but needs to figure out why he is here. Is it to get a badge and feel superior to others or is it because he truly wants to make TWC a better place.

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[Pontifex Maximus]

Without appearing unsupportive of my client, I tend to agree with the concerns here. If anything I would recommend denial now with the advice to apply a few months down the line.

[Astaroth]

I have nothing against enthusiasm towards anyone wanted to join any capacity on the site to make it better and help out to do their part. Enthusiasm is what keeps everything going. What I don't like is comments like this:

Nah, Molls, you're just upset you never made it to red, and by the way, you're blue also, so don't act superior, you're not.
I'm about a month away from being red, so hush hush

and

Whyyyy would they want to make you red?...

Because I'm worthy.
You'll know once it's done. In July.

Trust me, I'm not looking for a hard reason to deny the application. Me going out of my way to make sure someone doesn't acquire citizenship does nothing for me...at all. Now me personally, I want to be able to say yes to everyone that comes across here without any question. I want to feel that if someone is put before the CdeC that the citizen patronizing them knows without a shadow of a doubt that their client is a definite shoe in. Also, I've also always had a big issue with people thinking that you can just jump on one of the content areas for like a month or two and think that's a definite gateway to becoming a citizen. It's more than just that for me. I need to see more of a commitment than some 2 or 3 months working.

Hm, these quotes are quite bad, I didn't see them before. While his contributions are pretty good he definitely has to work on his attitude. Enthusiasm isn't a problem but bragging about getting Citizenship and acting in such an arrogant way is unacceptable.

Yeah I just remembered this too.

I question the attitude and motives now. Someone who wants the red to rub in someone else's face, isn't someone who really wants the red.

Agreed. Taking this into account I don't feel confident voting in his favor anymore. I guess it would be best if he worked on his attitude and kept contributing for a while before applying again.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Fair enough gents, thanks for giving him a shake. I assume I can talk to him about the issues that were presented in this thread without making anybody too angry?

[Soulghast]

Well, I wouldn't like current CdeC cases being talked about with non-CdeC members. As long as the case is concluded feel free though.

[Viking Prince]

I agree with the above discussion. Thank you all for bringing the comments forward. I also agree with Ponti, that this may be a good reason to table the application and reapply again in after a bit of time.

Does this need to go to a vote or is this being withdrawn by the Patron?

[Dayman]

Looking at his past comments, he seems to value his potential citizenship as bragging rights. This casts all of his contributions in that light. You should want to be citizen, but not want to lord it over your fellow members. I'll be voting a no.

[Augustus Lucifer]

The Good: He seems fairly enthusiastic and helpful. His guide appears quite useful. He has contributed a few articles to the various publications and competitions.



The Bad: His debating is sub-par, level headed is about the only thing I can grant. He hasn't been here for very long so his overall resume is lacking.



The Ugly: He's clearly a bit arrogant and presumptuous, despite his attempts to persuade us otherwise at the start of his 'paragraph'. It's unclear whether he means to contribute to the site or just use his involvement to aid his ambitions.

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Right now I can't say yes to this. For me he hasn't been contributing long enough, and most of the contributions are of fair quality but nothing laudable. Coupled with a sometimes poor attitude and lack of understanding about what it means to be a Citizen, it's insufficient as of this time. If he continues to contribute, knowing that he is doing so of his own volition for his enjoyment, and that is might or might not result in rank and privilege, then I can see him passing in the future.

Were it that the contributions were astounding, pomposity would not enter into my assessment and a definite yes would be issued. But his overall resume falls a ways short of when I'd consider factoring out attitude or lack of understanding. At the threshold it plays an important determinant.